Message from @Sentient23
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Could ya please stop confusing different varients of fascism and then claiming those aspects of those particular variants are in every single fascist ideology
Organicism is exclussive to paganism and perhaps pantheism
its not present within clerical fascism
holy shit
clerical fascism rejects revolutionarism
@Zoltanous @Deleted User this is what fascism has become in the 21st century
shut the fuck up
stop acting as if u have some arbitrary authority
ur challenged
@Sentient23 fascism, whether you like it or not, is an **ontological position**. Organicism is an inherent part of this ontological position
define fascism @Sentient23
Again, organicism is not present within clerical fascism you illiterate fuck
define fascism
please
No
any fascist movement that doesnt have organicism as part of its ontology is not fascist
"no"
so you dont know what it is
cool
Yeah definitely, not wanting to do x is definitely the same as not knowing how to do x
well, it sounds like you have an extremely liberal view of what fascism is and just consider it "totalitarian ultra nationalism" or something
of course, this is an educated assumption
so if you actually do know what you are talking about, please provide your definition
Lmao what the fuck is an "educated assumption"
Assumptions are arbitrary by definition
there are assumptions and there are estimates
if ur estimating provide the standards from which ur extrapolating from
nice moving the conversation when you realise you tried to argue something you have no clue about. if you truly think my position is wrong then please provide your definition of fascism and explain how organicism isnt inherent in the ontology
Its not moving the conversation, u just started making retarded unsubstantiated assumptions
and i called you out on it
I see this conversation is going nowhere as debating definitions is fucking useless and boring
if my assumption was wrong then prove it lmao
my advice is for next time you find yourself backed into a corner like this, dont try to argue things you have no clue about/havent read any theory on in the first place
that's not how burden of proof works buddy
if u assert x, the burden is on you to justify X, not on me to disprove x
lmao you havent backed me into a corner, i just saw that this isnt going anywhere, and i remembered that debating definitions is useless, thus im trying to stop the conversation
This is a wall of shit
ive provided my reasoning for my assertion, organicism is inherent in Gentile's doctrine, a key part of this doctrine is that it rejects humanistic materialism in favour of hierarchy and Organicism and spiritualism. you are correct on one thing, fascism will vary depending on the movement/nation. Codreanu advocated for the church to be the centre of the nation. however this does not change its **inherent ontology**
The Iron Guard were Reactionary
Italian Fascism was Revolutionary
National Socialism was a bit paradoxically but was ultimately Revolutionary
Alright since you dont know what "im trying to stop the conversation" means, here let me put it this way, shut the fuck up already