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Taxes combined for a unified public service creates cohesion between citizens.
That’s what I want
I want self-reliance and division from government
@Joe The Communist That’s a great a plan for a Civil War and extremely low national stability which will create an environment ripe for imperialization from stronger unified nations.
There is more to a national community than taxes and free shit
If there isn’t than that country doesn’t need to exist
Ok the us is stronger than that though
@Deleted User I think he is done with me
@Joe The Communist there is more to a nation than that, but strong central government is a major part of a strong nation.
Self-reliance and factionalism will only weekend any ability to defend against an invader. It’s the difference between 1000 army ants attacking together and one by one.
The government does not bring national unity
The lack of a strong government would barely harm our national identity
@Joe The Communist : sorry, what do you mean done w/ you? had to step away.. sorry
I said I think he was done debating
ah', no not really
Yea....
my framing centers on human intention in that when someone has bad intention/unfair intention, everything else is obfuscation
most -isms/-ists can be brought back to that first principle and their nature's revealed
Okay
most things that go awry in terms of fairness is due to initial/ongoing bad/unfair intentions
nothing wrong with a free-market economy and equity markets but that's not what we have
So, i try not to get to caught up in the shell game economic/political/philosophical obfuscation
why do we have insane deficits? Because the bonehead govt decided to unfairly and negatively spend more than what it brings in year over year
simple fix to that
Unrelated fact: it is cold af in Michigan
but no one takes it .. yet will speak for decades about complex econ theory
why do the rich have more than the poor to an extent that its breaking society?
because markets aren't fair/regulated
and are anything but free-markets
or capitalistic
when people start getting real/truthful, then things will change
until then its all just smoke and mirrors
Social security.. smoke and mirrors
so they create 401ks
401ks smoke and mirrors so you get IRA
IRA smoke and mirrors so you get roth IRA
Human beings are fools for the infinite shell games they play when they're ultimately the ones that pay the price behind the shell games
not sure what to debate here
@Joe The Communist It absolutely harms it. What point is there in serving a nation that doesn’t serve you?
This is why revolutions happen dude.