That’s going to work indefinitely and not cause class warfare.

To get security from police yes

They will have to buy it

The secret service will cost them

Yeah, so basically there won’t be any lower class politicians.

With massive security no

It will be the rich elite. That will only inflame social and economic stratification.

Major politicians having to pay their own security will not cause class warfare

It will because the only major politicians there will be are rich ones.

And the poor don’t like being ignored.

What you are proposing would be a breeding ground for communist and socialist cells.

That’s already the case

The poor would group together in a commune to provide their own security, further splitting them from mainstream government

This is not anywhere near as intense with a public police force.

It’s as simple as bread and circuses. You need to keep the working class happy.

Eliminating public services will not serve that end.

Honestly, how can you not see the result of this would be a splinter-shatter style civil war? @Joe The Communist

People can get their own bread and circuses with the money that won’t be stolen from them

@Joe The Communist That would mean that they would be self-reliant, and further divide them from the central goverment, local, state, national, or otherwise.

Taxes combined for a unified public service creates cohesion between citizens.

That’s what I want

I want self-reliance and division from government

@Joe The Communist That’s a great a plan for a Civil War and extremely low national stability which will create an environment ripe for imperialization from stronger unified nations.

There is more to a national community than taxes and free shit

If there isn’t than that country doesn’t need to exist

Ok the us is stronger than that though

@Deleted User I think he is done with me

@Joe The Communist there is more to a nation than that, but strong central government is a major part of a strong nation.

Self-reliance and factionalism will only weekend any ability to defend against an invader. It’s the difference between 1000 army ants attacking together and one by one.

The government does not bring national unity

The lack of a strong government would barely harm our national identity

@Joe The Communist : sorry, what do you mean done w/ you? had to step away.. sorry

I said I think he was done debating

ah', no not really

Yea....

my framing centers on human intention in that when someone has bad intention/unfair intention, everything else is obfuscation

most -isms/-ists can be brought back to that first principle and their nature's revealed

Okay

most things that go awry in terms of fairness is due to initial/ongoing bad/unfair intentions

nothing wrong with capitalism but ultimately that's not what we have for instance

nothing wrong with a free-market economy and equity markets but that's not what we have