Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

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2018-12-08 21:23:32 UTC  

ok, what is this marxist crap,

2018-12-08 21:23:32 UTC  

profit is great

2018-12-08 21:23:34 UTC  

it is

2018-12-08 21:23:36 UTC  

The full value is never gained

2018-12-08 21:23:38 UTC  

workers cant be paid the same price as the good that is sold

2018-12-08 21:23:40 UTC  

"global market equilibrium" = /= what is fair or best for the nation

2018-12-08 21:23:42 UTC  

talking economics with socialists is aids

2018-12-08 21:23:51 UTC  

@t r u e yes the market fairs best for everyone

2018-12-08 21:23:53 UTC  

because we have to pay interest, dividends, rents and pay other workers who worked for the same product

2018-12-08 21:24:01 UTC  

there are other factors of production that aren't labour

2018-12-08 21:24:03 UTC  

Capitalism isn't morally acceptable

2018-12-08 21:24:09 UTC  

seems acceptable to me

2018-12-08 21:24:17 UTC  

this is useless, willful idiots

2018-12-08 21:24:25 UTC  

Keeping and reducing the poverty rate is better than having a shit quality of life and starvation

2018-12-08 21:24:27 UTC  

You can never truly keep the full value of your labour under capitalism

2018-12-08 21:24:27 UTC  

we are paying the workers a price they have accepted and a similar price workers for the same job are getting paid, which actually is quite high in western nations

2018-12-08 21:24:34 UTC  

keep?

2018-12-08 21:24:41 UTC  

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ prove USSR had starvation

2018-12-08 21:24:46 UTC  

nope, you get the full value as determined by supply and demand, which is exactly what the CEO gets

2018-12-08 21:24:46 UTC  

lAboUR tHEory of vAlaUE

2018-12-08 21:24:55 UTC  

wait you said USSR wasn't socialist

2018-12-08 21:24:57 UTC  

everyone gets their wages from supply and demand

2018-12-08 21:24:58 UTC  

what happened to that?

2018-12-08 21:24:58 UTC  

>subjective theory of value

2018-12-08 21:25:07 UTC  

what happened to USSR not having socialism

2018-12-08 21:25:19 UTC  

Why is that relevant?

2018-12-08 21:25:19 UTC  

Holodomir

2018-12-08 21:25:25 UTC  

THERE IT IS

2018-12-08 21:25:27 UTC  

Because I said socialist country

2018-12-08 21:25:29 UTC  

but you said

2018-12-08 21:25:31 UTC  

USSR

2018-12-08 21:25:33 UTC  

Holodomor

2018-12-08 21:25:34 UTC  

the USSR had starvation and this is recorded

2018-12-08 21:25:36 UTC  

Holodmor existed yes

2018-12-08 21:25:40 UTC  

paleoconservative is the way to go, just not with the kikery

2018-12-08 21:25:46 UTC  

the socialists denying it is just as bad as the holocaust

2018-12-08 21:25:47 UTC  

you cant deny there was mass starvation

2018-12-08 21:25:49 UTC  

I g2g

2018-12-08 21:25:57 UTC  

10m

2018-12-08 21:26:02 UTC  

A spacial map of the ukranian famine of 1932-33 by harvard. There's a lot of information and generally it helps debunk a lot of myths about the holodomor. the map shows, among other things, that there is no correlation between ethnicity and famine (some of the hardest hit areas had the largest Russian minority), raw procurement per capita was lower in areas with famine (although plan fulfillment was higher because the plan targets were lowered), and more collectivization was linked to lower famine rates

http://gis.huri.harvard.edu/historical-atlas/the-great-famine/famine-web-map.html
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2018-12-08 21:26:02 UTC  

70m after