Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ
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ok, what is this marxist crap,
profit is great
it is
The full value is never gained
workers cant be paid the same price as the good that is sold
"global market equilibrium" = /= what is fair or best for the nation
talking economics with socialists is aids
@t r u e yes the market fairs best for everyone
because we have to pay interest, dividends, rents and pay other workers who worked for the same product
there are other factors of production that aren't labour
Capitalism isn't morally acceptable
seems acceptable to me
this is useless, willful idiots
Keeping and reducing the poverty rate is better than having a shit quality of life and starvation
You can never truly keep the full value of your labour under capitalism
we are paying the workers a price they have accepted and a similar price workers for the same job are getting paid, which actually is quite high in western nations
keep?
@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ prove USSR had starvation
nope, you get the full value as determined by supply and demand, which is exactly what the CEO gets
lAboUR tHEory of vAlaUE
everyone gets their wages from supply and demand
what happened to that?
>subjective theory of value
what happened to USSR not having socialism
Why is that relevant?
Holodomir
THERE IT IS
Because I said socialist country
but you said
USSR
Holodomor
the USSR had starvation and this is recorded
Holodmor existed yes
paleoconservative is the way to go, just not with the kikery
the socialists denying it is just as bad as the holocaust
you cant deny there was mass starvation
I g2g
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A spacial map of the ukranian famine of 1932-33 by harvard. There's a lot of information and generally it helps debunk a lot of myths about the holodomor. the map shows, among other things, that there is no correlation between ethnicity and famine (some of the hardest hit areas had the largest Russian minority), raw procurement per capita was lower in areas with famine (although plan fulfillment was higher because the plan targets were lowered), and more collectivization was linked to lower famine rates
http://gis.huri.harvard.edu/historical-atlas/the-great-famine/famine-web-map.html
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