Message from @Я миска риса

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2019-02-08 18:48:26 UTC  

ye

2019-02-08 22:43:42 UTC  

Trickle down exists in the sense that people have enacted policies with trickle down effects in mind

2019-02-08 22:43:59 UTC  

Like yeah no one thinks it works, but then why do we see it in action

2019-02-09 02:22:35 UTC  

It worked to a degree in the 80's.

2019-02-09 02:22:45 UTC  

Every class was making bank back then, everybody

2019-02-09 02:24:47 UTC  

Until the economy slows down/crashes

2019-02-09 02:54:02 UTC  

Trickle down economics in the 80s was financed by a sizable increase in total debt

2019-02-09 10:35:11 UTC  

**"Trickle down exists in the sense that people have enacted policies with trickle down effects in mind
Like yeah no one thinks it works, but then why do we see it in action"**

@wahx No it doesn't

2019-02-09 10:35:28 UTC  

there is no school of economic thought called "trickle down economics" nor is there any policies that exist.

2019-02-09 10:36:02 UTC  

@Leo (BillNyeLand) I don't know what you mean by "financed", considering the tax cuts ended up increasing the tax revenue, the only reason the debt increased was huge spending hikes by Reagan.

2019-02-09 11:26:39 UTC  

@Я миска риса But why does the economy slow down and crash? It is not natural, but government induced.

2019-02-09 11:27:21 UTC  

Eustace is right, but that boom was going to come to the end, there always was going to be a bust due to the very nature of the Federal reserve and it's manipulation of interest rates. If let to the free market, there would be no boom and busts. There would not even be a recession naturally, the likely cause of any recession would be a natural disaster etc. The very reason these boom and busts happen is the manipulation of interest rates and cheap credit polices by the federal reserve, it's not even the FED itself but all central banks. The government entities like these do not have the adequate or enough information to make such centrally planned decisions and are generally inefficient. In a free market, interest rates would be controlled by the market forces, which is perfectly fine.

2019-02-09 11:46:54 UTC  

In a free market, interest rates would reflect the savings. Like supply and demand , the increased supply of savings will decrease the price of the savings (interest rates) and vice versa. Leading to supply and demand, @Neco2040

2019-02-09 11:46:58 UTC  

It exists everywhere

2019-02-09 11:47:15 UTC  

You must have a very high iq

2019-02-09 11:47:22 UTC  

Supply and demand is everywhere, in the labour market, oil market and money/savings market.

2019-02-09 11:47:47 UTC  

Supply and demand doesn't just apply to goods, it's why raising the minimum wage decreased employment and such. There is a shortage of demand and an excess in supply.

2019-02-09 11:47:55 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441728840025374731/543759954792939531/minimum-wage-supply-and-demand1.jpg

2019-02-09 14:19:30 UTC  

Dude, giving lots of tax cuts to rich people does not grow the economy

2019-02-09 14:19:46 UTC  

The rich just get richer, and the poor and middle class get shafted

2019-02-09 14:27:04 UTC  

cutting taxes to corporations does

2019-02-09 14:27:21 UTC  

and income taxes barely affect the rich as their money comes from capital gains

2019-02-09 14:30:27 UTC  

@Я миска риса holy shit dude you’re an NPC

2019-02-09 14:30:32 UTC  

Tax cuts to everyone help

2019-02-09 14:30:42 UTC  

Since the rich people save more, and saving grows the economy

2019-02-09 14:30:50 UTC  

For them to save more they need more money so cut taxes

2019-02-09 14:30:59 UTC  

Not to mention more of an incentive to create jobs and invest

2019-02-09 14:31:15 UTC  

The rich get richer and the poor have been getting richer

2019-02-09 14:31:24 UTC  

The middle class has shrunk and the upper class has grown

2019-02-09 14:32:34 UTC  

And nobody is saying only give tax cuts to the rich so stop making straw man arguments up

2019-02-09 14:34:23 UTC  

yes

2019-02-09 14:34:28 UTC  

But that’s unimportant

2019-02-09 14:34:39 UTC  

The rest of the argument is

2019-02-09 14:35:42 UTC  

What does that mean is what I’m asking

2019-02-09 14:35:58 UTC  

Don’t worry about it

2019-02-09 14:36:07 UTC  

Okay

2019-02-09 14:36:10 UTC  

But anyways

2019-02-09 14:36:13 UTC  

The point is tax cuts help

2019-02-09 14:36:22 UTC  

And have throughout the past