why build a wall when we can increase the rate of legal immigration?

Because I don't think we should be bringing in thousands of illiterate poorly educated people who don't speak English and as it stands are not encouraged at all to assimilate.

I would turn most away.

I only want intelligent skilled workers.

My parents were intelligent skilled workers fleeing post-Soviet dirt poor Eastern Europe.

My family assimilated and we all speak English

This is the kind of immigration we need.

Yeah, i guess i just don't value "culture" like you do. I could care less if someone is uneducated or can't speak english

i really don't care if my neighbor is retarded

Citizenship processing is an assimilation process.

All people in a country should share basic values and ideology if not a shared history and race.

This is what makes a country a nation instead of a plot of land.

What values of mexican culture are so different from american? other than language

American values are rooted in Lockean liberal thought and religious freedom. Not so much a lack of shared values as a lack of emphasis on those in Mexico.

Cultural identity is important as well.

Americans should have a shared cultural identity.

Foremost and most superficially is a shared language.

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The standardization of language is credited with the creation of the nation-state in the 19th century.

10% of France spoke French in the 18th century.

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I don't see how mexican values really conflict with american values, they have a pretty similar constitution with freedoms and stuff. Infact i think mexicans are more apt to adapting to american society than eastern europeans. I guess making them speak english is fine, i don't really care. I think we share a pretty similar culture. I know that my italian family is catholic, i know mexicans are catholics. I really don't see the major cultural differences that would prevent them from living in american society. Mexicans are westerners just like americans

I didn't say they conflict, I said they aren't emphasized as much.

Alright

and you want a massive border wall keeping them out because?

A uniform language is the most important vehicle for assimilation

So other than learning english, what else is importiant?

Because it's a violation of our sovereignty and a slippery slope for weak border policy which WILL lead to criminals and drug traffickers to cross the border.

Becoming a citizen obviously.

There's a whole process where you effectively have to learn American values and become familiar with them.

It's not an easy process.

A lot of people prefer to skip it in their selfishness.

That's illegal immigration.

Okay, im wondering about the process. What values would a mexican have to give up, and what values would a mexican have to adopt to become an american?

personally i think they are basically americans, just learn english

Didn't we just establish the values are largely congruent, just with varying levels of emphasis?

yeah