Message from @Fish

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2018-08-10 03:27:33 UTC  

i really don't care if my neighbor is retarded

2018-08-10 03:27:37 UTC  

Citizenship processing is an assimilation process.

2018-08-10 03:28:01 UTC  

All people in a country should share basic values and ideology if not a shared history and race.

2018-08-10 03:28:11 UTC  

This is what makes a country a nation instead of a plot of land.

2018-08-10 03:28:45 UTC  

What values of mexican culture are so different from american? other than language

2018-08-10 03:29:26 UTC  

American values are rooted in Lockean liberal thought and religious freedom. Not so much a lack of shared values as a lack of emphasis on those in Mexico.

2018-08-10 03:29:33 UTC  

Cultural identity is important as well.

2018-08-10 03:29:41 UTC  

Americans should have a shared cultural identity.

2018-08-10 03:29:58 UTC  

Foremost and most superficially is a shared language.

2018-08-10 03:30:18 UTC  

Oof

2018-08-10 03:30:21 UTC  

The standardization of language is credited with the creation of the nation-state in the 19th century.

2018-08-10 03:30:32 UTC  

10% of France spoke French in the 18th century.

2018-08-10 03:30:57 UTC  

https://discord..gg/[uvezNT]

2018-08-10 03:31:03 UTC  

Join, guys

2018-08-10 03:31:07 UTC  

Carlist Spain

2018-08-10 03:31:08 UTC  

Fuck off shill.

2018-08-10 03:31:11 UTC  

Mock gov't

2018-08-10 03:37:09 UTC  

I don't see how mexican values really conflict with american values, they have a pretty similar constitution with freedoms and stuff. Infact i think mexicans are more apt to adapting to american society than eastern europeans. I guess making them speak english is fine, i don't really care. I think we share a pretty similar culture. I know that my italian family is catholic, i know mexicans are catholics. I really don't see the major cultural differences that would prevent them from living in american society. Mexicans are westerners just like americans

2018-08-10 03:37:48 UTC  

I didn't say they conflict, I said they aren't emphasized as much.

2018-08-10 03:37:54 UTC  

Alright

2018-08-10 03:38:07 UTC  

and you want a massive border wall keeping them out because?

2018-08-10 03:38:08 UTC  

A uniform language is the most important vehicle for assimilation

2018-08-10 03:38:37 UTC  

So other than learning english, what else is importiant?

2018-08-10 03:38:41 UTC  

Because it's a violation of our sovereignty and a slippery slope for weak border policy which WILL lead to criminals and drug traffickers to cross the border.

2018-08-10 03:38:49 UTC  

Becoming a citizen obviously.

2018-08-10 03:39:12 UTC  

There's a whole process where you effectively have to learn American values and become familiar with them.

2018-08-10 03:39:18 UTC  

It's not an easy process.

2018-08-10 03:39:32 UTC  

A lot of people prefer to skip it in their selfishness.

2018-08-10 03:39:41 UTC  

That's illegal immigration.

2018-08-10 03:39:50 UTC  

Okay, im wondering about the process. What values would a mexican have to give up, and what values would a mexican have to adopt to become an american?

2018-08-10 03:40:12 UTC  

personally i think they are basically americans, just learn english

2018-08-10 03:40:24 UTC  

Didn't we just establish the values are largely congruent, just with varying levels of emphasis?

2018-08-10 03:40:30 UTC  

yeah

2018-08-10 03:41:00 UTC  

Mostly I am against poorly educated unskilled labor flooding over the border.

2018-08-10 03:41:06 UTC  

And the drug traffickers.

2018-08-10 03:42:58 UTC  

idk i know many people who left highschool to go work at walmart. I don't see a problem with uneducated unskilled labor. They buy things and add to the economy just like everyone else

2018-08-10 03:43:09 UTC  

im also against drug trafffickers

2018-08-10 03:43:29 UTC  

i still don't think any of this warrents a wall

2018-08-10 03:43:46 UTC  

When you have uneducated people that come here and don't learn English they become a semi-permanent underclass.

2018-08-10 03:44:12 UTC  

What do you think happens when a semi-permanent underclass forms of a particular ethnic group?

2018-08-10 03:44:16 UTC  

Gangs form.