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I only want intelligent skilled workers.
My parents were intelligent skilled workers fleeing post-Soviet dirt poor Eastern Europe.
My family assimilated and we all speak English
This is the kind of immigration we need.
Yeah, i guess i just don't value "culture" like you do. I could care less if someone is uneducated or can't speak english
i really don't care if my neighbor is retarded
Citizenship processing is an assimilation process.
All people in a country should share basic values and ideology if not a shared history and race.
This is what makes a country a nation instead of a plot of land.
What values of mexican culture are so different from american? other than language
American values are rooted in Lockean liberal thought and religious freedom. Not so much a lack of shared values as a lack of emphasis on those in Mexico.
Cultural identity is important as well.
Americans should have a shared cultural identity.
Foremost and most superficially is a shared language.
Oof
The standardization of language is credited with the creation of the nation-state in the 19th century.
10% of France spoke French in the 18th century.
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I don't see how mexican values really conflict with american values, they have a pretty similar constitution with freedoms and stuff. Infact i think mexicans are more apt to adapting to american society than eastern europeans. I guess making them speak english is fine, i don't really care. I think we share a pretty similar culture. I know that my italian family is catholic, i know mexicans are catholics. I really don't see the major cultural differences that would prevent them from living in american society. Mexicans are westerners just like americans
I didn't say they conflict, I said they aren't emphasized as much.
Alright
and you want a massive border wall keeping them out because?
A uniform language is the most important vehicle for assimilation
So other than learning english, what else is importiant?
Because it's a violation of our sovereignty and a slippery slope for weak border policy which WILL lead to criminals and drug traffickers to cross the border.
Becoming a citizen obviously.
There's a whole process where you effectively have to learn American values and become familiar with them.
It's not an easy process.
A lot of people prefer to skip it in their selfishness.
That's illegal immigration.
Okay, im wondering about the process. What values would a mexican have to give up, and what values would a mexican have to adopt to become an american?
personally i think they are basically americans, just learn english
Didn't we just establish the values are largely congruent, just with varying levels of emphasis?
yeah
Mostly I am against poorly educated unskilled labor flooding over the border.
And the drug traffickers.
idk i know many people who left highschool to go work at walmart. I don't see a problem with uneducated unskilled labor. They buy things and add to the economy just like everyone else