Message from @Diokun

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2018-12-12 07:44:28 UTC  

everyone has access to healthcare

2018-12-12 07:44:36 UTC  

yes, partially because of the government

2018-12-12 07:44:58 UTC  

no everyone has access to healthcare like everyone has access to the damn shopping mall

2018-12-12 07:45:00 UTC  

One example of a utility that has been privatized is internet. Now how is that going?

2018-12-12 07:45:02 UTC  

the whole big government vs small government is a waste of time. (whatever those terms means). the real discussion should be: "we should determine or own elites" vs "no, we should allow china to buy the loyalty of every rich man in USA"

2018-12-12 07:45:08 UTC  

it's a service that anyone can buy

2018-12-12 07:45:37 UTC  

and made more accessible to poor people through the government, thus making it more accessible

2018-12-12 07:45:38 UTC  

the internet was never a regulated public utility before net neutraility and it functions alright either way

2018-12-12 07:45:51 UTC  

I know, and it's a really shitty utility because of it

2018-12-12 07:45:55 UTC  

no it isnt

2018-12-12 07:45:59 UTC  

because, at least in America, it has become so monopolized

2018-12-12 07:46:06 UTC  

yeah it's incredibly overpriced

2018-12-12 07:46:16 UTC  

monopolized regionally I should say

2018-12-12 07:46:20 UTC  

you should say "ISPs" if you're talking about isps

2018-12-12 07:46:35 UTC  

yes, sorry, I'm talking about ISPs because that's how you get internet

2018-12-12 07:46:36 UTC  

the problem is not that it is monopolized. but that USA hasn't determined its own elites

2018-12-12 07:46:39 UTC  

dont just say THE INTERNET because I can't tell what the fuck you're talking about

2018-12-12 07:46:41 UTC  

therefore, CHINA did.

2018-12-12 07:47:03 UTC  

the only utility we can buy that gives us access to the internet, if you can't deduce that (which you did), then I can't help people who think that slow

2018-12-12 07:47:12 UTC  

internet would likely be slower and more expensive as a gov utiltiy, though I agree that ISPs are whores

2018-12-12 07:47:21 UTC  

if you don't create your own upper-class CHINA (or another) will. there is no escape from this reality!

2018-12-12 07:47:52 UTC  

the fact is that supplying internet to the whole country is just really fucking difficult and expensive. It will have problems.

2018-12-12 07:47:54 UTC  

and they will pretend to be USA upper-class, off-course

2018-12-12 07:48:09 UTC  

but they are loyal to CHINA

2018-12-12 07:48:31 UTC  

I don't think you can control who your upper-class is in a free market economy.

2018-12-12 07:48:40 UTC  

those problems exist independent of the person who address them, the problem that does exist with privatized internet is, as you say, whoring

2018-12-12 07:48:49 UTC  

that is my point. I am against free-market/equal oportunity.

2018-12-12 07:49:00 UTC  

@Deleted User not really... First time setup? Yes. Maintenance? Meh

2018-12-12 07:49:00 UTC  

..what?

2018-12-12 07:49:02 UTC  

but in truth, it doesn't exist. it never did, never will.

2018-12-12 07:49:08 UTC  

too slow, sorry

2018-12-12 07:49:25 UTC  

Equal opportunity is too big of a term.

2018-12-12 07:49:40 UTC  

have you ever seen union men repair something dude

2018-12-12 07:49:53 UTC  

maintenance is not meh

2018-12-12 07:50:10 UTC  

@Nikitis why would you want to control anyone? That's just freaking perverse and disgusting

2018-12-12 07:50:13 UTC  

free-market/equal opportunity will never exist. not in a million year, not anywhere in the universe. If you don't determine who your economic elites are, another nation will. and they will pretend to be your elites. but they are loyal to someone else.

2018-12-12 07:50:29 UTC  
2018-12-12 07:50:39 UTC  

Lmao I never mentioned I wanted to control someone, that was @Diokun

2018-12-12 07:51:07 UTC  

no, right, you just wanted to take most of the money they earned

2018-12-12 07:51:19 UTC  

@Nikitis you literally said "I don't think you can control who your upper-class is in a free market economy."

2018-12-12 07:51:29 UTC