Message from @Diokun
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everyone has access to healthcare
yes, partially because of the government
no everyone has access to healthcare like everyone has access to the damn shopping mall
One example of a utility that has been privatized is internet. Now how is that going?
the whole big government vs small government is a waste of time. (whatever those terms means). the real discussion should be: "we should determine or own elites" vs "no, we should allow china to buy the loyalty of every rich man in USA"
it's a service that anyone can buy
and made more accessible to poor people through the government, thus making it more accessible
the internet was never a regulated public utility before net neutraility and it functions alright either way
I know, and it's a really shitty utility because of it
no it isnt
because, at least in America, it has become so monopolized
yeah it's incredibly overpriced
monopolized regionally I should say
you should say "ISPs" if you're talking about isps
yes, sorry, I'm talking about ISPs because that's how you get internet
the problem is not that it is monopolized. but that USA hasn't determined its own elites
dont just say THE INTERNET because I can't tell what the fuck you're talking about
therefore, CHINA did.
the only utility we can buy that gives us access to the internet, if you can't deduce that (which you did), then I can't help people who think that slow
internet would likely be slower and more expensive as a gov utiltiy, though I agree that ISPs are whores
if you don't create your own upper-class CHINA (or another) will. there is no escape from this reality!
the fact is that supplying internet to the whole country is just really fucking difficult and expensive. It will have problems.
and they will pretend to be USA upper-class, off-course
but they are loyal to CHINA
I don't think you can control who your upper-class is in a free market economy.
those problems exist independent of the person who address them, the problem that does exist with privatized internet is, as you say, whoring
that is my point. I am against free-market/equal oportunity.
@Deleted User not really... First time setup? Yes. Maintenance? Meh
..what?
but in truth, it doesn't exist. it never did, never will.
too slow, sorry
Equal opportunity is too big of a term.
have you ever seen union men repair something dude
maintenance is not meh
@Nikitis why would you want to control anyone? That's just freaking perverse and disgusting
free-market/equal opportunity will never exist. not in a million year, not anywhere in the universe. If you don't determine who your economic elites are, another nation will. and they will pretend to be your elites. but they are loyal to someone else.
Lmao I never mentioned I wanted to control someone, that was @Diokun
no, right, you just wanted to take most of the money they earned
@Nikitis you literally said "I don't think you can control who your upper-class is in a free market economy."
@Deleted User exactly