Message from @Diokun
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night @Donaldus Triumphus may you crush your enemies in your dreams
nah, it seems people have bad leaders, so they conclude they shouldn't have leaders anymore...
That isn't a dream
GM: So you don’t view this as a big government/small government dilemma, as it’s often framed, but whose interests the government is ultimately serving?
RP: Powerful individuals and their corporations are simply aware that small streamlined governments are easier to control. The “small government advocates” want to privatize all the constructive functions — water, roads, schools, and medicine — and to limit government to taxing, policing, and war-making, but with the unstated function of defining property rights with a class bias. The power functions, taxing, policing, and war-making, can’t be privatized, because they have no constructive social function. The destructive powers of corporations were widely recognized 200 years ago, but skilled ideological construction has shifted the fear of bigness away from corporations, toward “government,” when government threatened to interfere with their power. Constructive social functions can be performed cooperatively, and borders or size limitations are probably irrelevant.
hahahah honestly @Donaldus Triumphus is a g
its like bitcoins folks. because our centralized system is a fraud, they conclude that every centralized system is bad, which is idiotic.
its like: you have a bad nurse. conclusion: we should no longer have nurses.
yeah that's why I don't understand most forms of anarchy
if the goal is population happiness
@Nikitis governments are mostly serving their own political interests now. And utilities can be privatised and have significant social functions.
From whence have you acquired that cancerous fluff?
😂😂😂😂
Ok then
Sad sad stuff
Governments serve social functions, denial of that is pretty silly. Roads, water, access to healthcare, many functions need a centralized body that doesn't care about profit
access to healthcare?
everyone has access to healthcare
yes, partially because of the government
no everyone has access to healthcare like everyone has access to the damn shopping mall
One example of a utility that has been privatized is internet. Now how is that going?
the whole big government vs small government is a waste of time. (whatever those terms means). the real discussion should be: "we should determine or own elites" vs "no, we should allow china to buy the loyalty of every rich man in USA"
it's a service that anyone can buy
and made more accessible to poor people through the government, thus making it more accessible
the internet was never a regulated public utility before net neutraility and it functions alright either way
I know, and it's a really shitty utility because of it
no it isnt
because, at least in America, it has become so monopolized
yeah it's incredibly overpriced
monopolized regionally I should say
you should say "ISPs" if you're talking about isps
yes, sorry, I'm talking about ISPs because that's how you get internet
the problem is not that it is monopolized. but that USA hasn't determined its own elites
dont just say THE INTERNET because I can't tell what the fuck you're talking about
therefore, CHINA did.
the only utility we can buy that gives us access to the internet, if you can't deduce that (which you did), then I can't help people who think that slow
internet would likely be slower and more expensive as a gov utiltiy, though I agree that ISPs are whores
if you don't create your own upper-class CHINA (or another) will. there is no escape from this reality!
the fact is that supplying internet to the whole country is just really fucking difficult and expensive. It will have problems.
and they will pretend to be USA upper-class, off-course
but they are loyal to CHINA
I don't think you can control who your upper-class is in a free market economy.