That is a retarded non-distinction. The deficit is spending, less revenue. If we did not use that payroll tax to fund welfare, we could use it to fund something else and so decrease the deficit.

But by that logic any spending increases the deficit

You are right

what a concept

We should cut the military

And all tax cuts increase the deficit

we should cut many things including military and welfare

And raise taxes

If you want to reduce the deficit

and we should seek to increase revenue from outside sources

like making NATO countries pay for defense, or increasing tariffs on predatory foreign imports

what point are you trying to make?

it sounds a lot like you are just regurgitating liberal talking points

That you can’t pin the deficit squarely on one program that funds itself and use that as a reason to call for its removal

If you say that, then I just say you’re regurgitating conservative talking points

you literally tried to do the inverse of that above

That adds nothing to the conversation

what level of cognitive dissonance are you on son

I said “by that logic”

Not my logic, your logic

holy hell

Are you going to call me a NPC next

yeah, the confusion of your brainwashed mind is so great it actually spills into reality

You’re just using ad hominems now

No, I dismissed your trash argument

then I called you a retard

You just ignored what I was actually saying and dismissed a straw man

You had no idea what you were talking about in the first place, so anything I say looks like a strawman to you

get in a car crash

Look, I said “by that logic, you would say **this**”, and you were like “ha, you said **this**, which is wrong”

you need a shotgun lobotomy libtard

You’re literally just insulting me

How is that anything but ad hominem

classic libtard, trying to have a conversation

Dang

Got me there

The healthcare system in America

Is the result of socialism

Change my mind

@wahx @Leo (BillNyeLand)

I'll pass, that's a pretty vague premise