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Yes

it should be abolished

the war on poverty literally caused poverty to rise

Ok so I guess all the people who rely on it to survive should die or become homeless good idea

No people can survive without welfare states

welfare states only breed dependency, laziness

and inefficency

“Lets take away your income that you’ve paid into your entire life”

Not to emntion the debt

pay it back to them

and abolish it

We’re not talking about some 25 year old black dude living on welfare we’re taking about senior citizens lol

Misred

But my point stands again

it's going broke

running the debt up

Instead invest into stocks, private pention

Debates between Reagan and Mondale are so damn civilized compared to the debates of the 2016 Election

Social security is funded through payroll taxes. It doesn’t add to the debt

That is a retarded non-distinction. The deficit is spending, less revenue. If we did not use that payroll tax to fund welfare, we could use it to fund something else and so decrease the deficit.

But by that logic any spending increases the deficit

You are right

what a concept

We should cut the military

And all tax cuts increase the deficit

we should cut many things including military and welfare

And raise taxes

If you want to reduce the deficit

and we should seek to increase revenue from outside sources

like making NATO countries pay for defense, or increasing tariffs on predatory foreign imports

what point are you trying to make?

it sounds a lot like you are just regurgitating liberal talking points

That you can’t pin the deficit squarely on one program that funds itself and use that as a reason to call for its removal

If you say that, then I just say you’re regurgitating conservative talking points

you literally tried to do the inverse of that above

That adds nothing to the conversation

what level of cognitive dissonance are you on son

I said “by that logic”

Not my logic, your logic

holy hell