Message from @Penkop

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2018-07-21 18:04:16 UTC  

"If there is no enemy within, no one on the outside can harm you..." cant remember where i got that one though

2018-07-21 18:06:29 UTC  

@Sheamus that is so true

2018-07-21 18:12:05 UTC  

It was a white woman who honey trapped van Loggerenberg which then led to SARS be captured, Zuma had a white lawyer, Malema used white lawyers, FW is white ex. All for the money.

2018-07-21 18:13:47 UTC  

@Karooboer hoe se hulle, "geld is god"

2018-07-21 18:16:33 UTC  

2018-07-21 18:16:33 UTC  

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2018-07-21 18:19:51 UTC  

I think it's more than just money, it's what that money can do for them. it's the value they place on material desires and pleasures that motivate and drive them, which money can buy. Others can have different values and not be corrupted by money in the same way, so it really comes down to the intentions and the reasons behind it, the way I see it.

2018-07-21 18:22:46 UTC  

@Sheamus definitely, money, power or things, fact is there is no way they did not know what will happen in SA. I mean HF Verwoerd said in his day already what we see today will happen, FW had access to all the intel on ANC documents, yet they supposedly thought the ANC would respect the constitution? Just makes me so angry.

2018-07-21 18:29:41 UTC  

@Karooboer absolutely, they knew for sure.... People in such positions don't just do it out of ignorance though. It was the appearance of good intentions that deceived everyone...

2018-07-21 18:30:06 UTC  

There is something wrong with your principles when your actions lead to the downfall of your own people. There is a special place in hell for FW and his cronies. Hendsoppers....

2018-07-21 18:30:28 UTC  

Sit dit op jou vlog Renaldo

2018-07-21 18:30:30 UTC  

And its even worse if you do itfor money

2018-07-21 18:31:28 UTC  

@Penkop couldnt agree more, that is as objectively reasonable as you can get on the matter.

2018-07-21 18:32:06 UTC  

Even if FW negotiated deals for the minority whites. The ANC would have still changed the constitution sooner or later. I don't think we could have done anything either way.

2018-07-21 18:33:23 UTC  

@Gonzo they should have at least got us our own republic. Then live like Israel.

2018-07-21 18:35:05 UTC  

Our side could have negotiated a lot better than they did. Cant remember the lawyers name now that had to argue against Ramaposa in 94. If you sit him down now and ask him if he thinks he did everything possible to the best of his abilities for the Afrikaners, what would he say?

2018-07-21 18:36:28 UTC  

@Penkop Roelf Meyer, Ramaphosa se besigheids vriend vandag, selfde ou wat nou die gaan help met die seksie 25 ding

2018-07-21 18:36:40 UTC  

Hy gaan nou weer kans kry om ons te naai

2018-07-21 18:36:41 UTC  

@Karooboer would never have been allowed. Roelf should have negotiated that the constitution say that laws such as BEE should not be allowed for a minimum of per say 50 years. Things like that.

2018-07-21 18:36:50 UTC  

Daarsy Karoo Dankie.

2018-07-21 18:37:05 UTC  

Hendsopper!

2018-07-21 18:37:14 UTC  

@Gonzo ANC does not believe in constitutions

2018-07-21 18:38:01 UTC  

So does 80% of SA

2018-07-21 18:38:43 UTC  

Exactly if they can just change them to suit their communist ideology, it does not mean anything whatsoever

2018-07-21 18:39:01 UTC  

The constitution, I mean

2018-07-21 18:39:26 UTC  

I know thats why i said nothing would have helped really. But roelf could have negotiated a treaty for a certain amount of years at least

2018-07-21 18:39:57 UTC  

He should have tried at leasr

2018-07-21 18:40:01 UTC  

Least

2018-07-21 18:41:16 UTC  

Africa sure does love communism

2018-07-21 18:42:08 UTC  

Do you mean to tell me Ramaphosa did not say to him that if he accepts those terms he would cut him in on everything?

2018-07-21 18:43:06 UTC  

@Penkop that is where BEE got born, white business sits behind the BEE concept if you ask me

2018-07-21 18:44:02 UTC  

Imagine a Ernst Roets interview met FW?

2018-07-21 18:46:10 UTC  

I would love to have a open session with all Afrikaans groups including the politicians and Generals of the 90-94 era, lets us discuss these things.

2018-07-21 18:46:41 UTC  

@Willem Petzer try to get FW on a live chat?

2018-07-21 18:47:29 UTC  

@Karooboerhet jy die konteks interview gesien van ernst met clive derby lewis? Was baie interesant

2018-07-21 18:47:34 UTC  

I would like to ask those Hendsoppers and the people who voted yes. Now what? How do you like the current situation in SA? And they cannot say they did not know this will be the result, because all the other parties like KP and AWB said not to vote yes because this will happen. So they were warned and still did it.

2018-07-21 18:47:34 UTC  

Ditsem! @Penkop, you just advanced to level 4!

2018-07-21 18:49:44 UTC  

!rank

2018-07-21 18:49:45 UTC  

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