any little bit helps. when millions of people do a little very day, every week, every month, it all adds up

@Men Are Human thanks for the advice, i have so much evidence already on the stbx. I learned early on to record everything once she started making fake domestic violence calls to the police.

very scary but sadly common. its good to record everything

people are slowly but surely waking up to how common stuff like that is

ya anyone that visits my house will think i'm overly paranoid or creepy but gotta do to protect myself from crazy.

i have some very affordable recording devices i'd like to share as well.

i'll post in mensrights

Every voice makes the chorus stronger, new or not, every single one is important

@ChitwnRogue No worries! And I hope you do well with it!

oh ya and during a free consult with an established attorney (40yrs experience) i mentioned how the family court system is biased v. men. and how there's a movement and documentaries. and he doesn't believe this bias doesn't exist and said it just sounds like a bunch of angry men who didn't get what they wanted in their divorces.

i meant he doesnt believe there is a bias

i think i threw in a double negative there

I don't think there any any petitions, no. Basically the MRM just isn't big enough atm to propose legal reform through the opposition of organizations like the NOW: https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/political-pulse/os-gov-scott-vetoes-alimony-bill-20160415-story.html

Hmm, divorce channel does not seem very popular. I can understand, such a horrible process, can't wait till it's all over. I got charged $50 just for an email exchange, fml

It's a support channel, so it's usually used to give support when people need it

Also oof, seriously? Lawyers are expensive :<

yeah I was charged $80 for speaking with my lawyer's secretary for 30 seconds

fuck lawyers

Damn...

That's retarded bruh

Wife file a tpo on me for stalking . I go to court and she has no proof. Judge dropped it. the look on her face priceless.

Nice!

That's still a concern though if the divorce court decides it has some kind of merit

What I've heard suggests that generally that trick only works if the order goes through

I remember hearing one particular case where they kept getting the order extended by delaying the court date due to the wife saying they can't attend for whatever reason to give testimony. I can't name a case offhand where they site allegations that went unproven as evidence of a hostile environment for the kids and such, but I think they exist

@Maxthx that sounds sketchy as hell, with the secretary? How did they itemize it on your bill?

I called the secretary about being confused because my paperwork kept referring to a document that I was supposed to have but didn't, however I realized during the conversation with her that the document didn't exist because of other reasons

apparently that was taken as an inquiry into the paperwork

even though she technically didn't help, but even speaking with her about the subject automatically billed me

and they only bill by the hour, so the second she picked up the phone I was charged for the full hour, no matter how long the conversation took

basically beauracracy

Wow, why is this practice still even legal? Pls tell me you were exaggerating @Maxthx. Unless my math is messed up which happens a lot that's $9600/hr

no its $80 an hour 😛 they just change for a full hour no matter how much of that hour you use

its still legal because whenever someone tries to speak out against it, they are branded as "right wing incels"

like if I use 10 minutes they charge 1 hour

its like phone minutes

Fuck that, okmy bad

if you use 10 seconds it counts as 1 minute

Ok that's how my attorney charges

but yeah lawyering is a racket

I been using email exclusively, read that's the best way to do it. That way I can carefully select my questions to ask and send all at once