Message from @Indigo

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2018-12-06 13:14:51 UTC  

But he also knows that if he so much mentions wage gaps or women in education or rape myths I will go into fight mode. xD

2018-12-06 13:26:04 UTC  

We are a strange couple but thankfully something is working because it has been almost 6 years now xD

2018-12-06 13:50:07 UTC  

@Abbysol haha, nope, my introduction was basically just the first sentence, as my conclusion is basically just the last sentence of the second-to-last paragraph. I wrote this almost top to bottom and posted it as soon as I got something workable together. To be honest, I'm not yet sure what a softer introduction should be, partially because I'm not sure how...(didactic?) I want to be. I'm not sure if I ended up writing more of a beginners guide sort of thing or more of a topics in boys education sort of thing. What it is *not* is "why boys lag behind in education" because we don't really know the answer to that question and that is quite possibly more related to fatherlessness, boys being harder hit by not having a decent home environment, and that kind of thing. Rather it lends itself more to answering the question "Do school systems face challenges in dealing with boys? If so, what?" I guess. That wasn't really by intent, honestly.

2018-12-06 13:50:17 UTC  

Actually, it better answers the question "What challenges do boys face dealing with schools?".

2018-12-06 13:51:13 UTC  

I think that will probably end up being the approach I need to revise the article around. Then my plan is to add some questions to the beginning of the first paragraph as InsaneCatarpilla mentioned around that theme (probably changing or removing the first sentence) and call that an introduction. Or is there a better way to tie these ideas together in a neat bundle?

2018-12-06 13:57:12 UTC  

I think asking what are the challenges boys face is a better angle to look at it from, because being able to identify the problems will inherently lead into find solutions, I’m not a good writer so I can’t help much, but it was just a thing I noticed, just a short little primer at the start I think would help it flow a little better and help it to feel like a more natural read. 😃

2018-12-06 14:12:49 UTC  

For a while now, we have known that our boys have been struggling in education. Also, for a while now we have focused on improving our girls' performance in schools, and have been remarkably successful. Our attention now needs to be on preventing our boys' worsening ability to do well in school, but how do we achieve this? First, we must evaluate the reasons why our boys are not performing to the same standard...

2018-12-06 14:12:57 UTC  

Perhaps something like that.

2018-12-06 15:15:52 UTC  
2018-12-07 19:45:23 UTC  

I just want to say something.

2018-12-07 19:45:53 UTC  

I was reading articles on the website and I felt the urge to share them, but I'm scared that it will ruin my career.

2018-12-07 19:47:11 UTC  

Even finishing my studies would be hell on earth, because all the professors are feminists and left wing liberals

2018-12-07 19:47:18 UTC  

So I have to self-sensor.

2018-12-07 20:41:09 UTC  

Hold on dude, things are surely changing.

2018-12-08 11:40:08 UTC  

@Thijs Peters#9845 Thank you for saying that, but please don't ruin your career! There are ways around it though. You could say something like "I was shocked by this, what do other people think?" And then maybe avoid replying to anyone?

2018-12-08 16:12:19 UTC  

@Men Are Human we need to create a canned replies datbase

2018-12-08 16:13:39 UTC  

Compile the best arguments to create easy replies to the most frequently asked questions.

2018-12-08 16:14:15 UTC  

I think personalised replies are much more persuasive than someone spewed of a bot

2018-12-08 16:15:02 UTC  

I mean comped citations stats and sources

2018-12-08 16:15:09 UTC  

*compend

2018-12-08 16:15:27 UTC  

Let's say someone asks

2018-12-08 16:15:54 UTC  

Feminism is for men too.. Tell me reasons otherwise.

2018-12-08 16:18:06 UTC  

Men are horribly privileged, tell me areas where they aren't.

2018-12-08 16:18:52 UTC  

Women were oppressed throughout history and men are their oppressors

2018-12-08 16:21:21 UTC  

Do you know many feminists who honestly look for answers? To them, they are rhetoricals, and they wouldn't ask them

2018-12-08 16:22:08 UTC  

Still, even if they did... I think its better coming from you

2018-12-08 16:22:25 UTC  

Surely you have a better way of explaining things than a robot?

2018-12-08 16:22:32 UTC  

We need to be ready when they encounter such questions elsewhere on reddit or the wider internet.

2018-12-08 16:23:01 UTC  

Yes, ready through our own thoughts and opinions. Not through a standardisation

2018-12-08 16:23:16 UTC  

So that it needs minimal time and editing

2018-12-08 16:23:46 UTC  

I'm talking about quick replies to quick questions

2018-12-08 16:23:53 UTC  

But it will always need editing, one reply isn't gonna change peoples
' minds

2018-12-08 16:23:56 UTC  

The most mundane

2018-12-08 16:24:39 UTC  

What if I make a compilation of all places men are disadvantaged

2018-12-08 16:24:44 UTC  

There is such thing as a quick reply, but most of the time there's more influence in actually doing so yourself

2018-12-08 16:25:01 UTC  

Do you wanna persuede people or fob them off?

2018-12-08 16:25:04 UTC  

It takes fucking lot of effort

2018-12-08 16:25:10 UTC  

Ask yourself that question

2018-12-08 16:25:13 UTC  

Yes it does

2018-12-08 16:25:23 UTC  

Is it worth it?

2018-12-08 16:25:26 UTC  

No