Message from @asparkofpyrokravte

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2018-12-18 08:10:44 UTC  

@InsaneCaterpilla Just wondering if the law we talk about on the front page of the site only applies to Ontario

2018-12-18 08:13:02 UTC  

@Tomas If you can write about it for us that would be awesome

2018-12-18 08:15:50 UTC  

@Men Are Human Ill give it a go if I manage to finish it Ill let you know

2018-12-18 08:20:10 UTC  

I believe that the 1987 pay equity act was only passed in Ontario. In 2018 it's being proposed on a country wide level legislation

2018-12-18 08:20:34 UTC  

The wording of the 1987 act is absurd to the point of making the bill worthless though

2018-12-18 08:21:03 UTC  

here: A female job class must receive compensation that is at least equal to the compensation that is **paid to a male job class of equal or comparable value**

2018-12-18 08:21:48 UTC  

If they were equal they would likely already be getting the same. I can't find a single case of the act actually being enforced

2018-12-18 08:23:19 UTC  

Also I assume that they have some kind of list of what constitutes a female job class? Anything 50%+ female?

2018-12-18 08:23:39 UTC  

As far as I can tell the entire thing is worthless, and done solely to pander to feminist voters

2018-12-18 08:34:51 UTC  

@Tomas thanks a lot

2018-12-18 08:36:59 UTC  

@InsaneCaterpilla Well it's a relief if it isn't being enforced, but the wording does imply a man could be paid less. I should really have run this by you guys first

2018-12-18 08:37:32 UTC  

However, if it is going country-wide it may be

2018-12-18 08:37:37 UTC  

Yes, the language is definitely gendered to exclude men, probably because they would then have to pay male porn actors more

2018-12-18 08:38:16 UTC  

@InsaneCaterpilla Ah, there we go then. It seems like it is in force

2018-12-18 08:38:25 UTC  

Hmmm

2018-12-18 08:39:01 UTC  

Do you want to take the text and do a couple of edits for clarify?

2018-12-18 08:40:16 UTC  

No thank you mate, its your article, and besides, I'd like to see what @asparkofpyrokravte thinks about my opinion on that particular law

2018-12-18 08:41:56 UTC  

Also I just started watching the final of the apprentice xD

2018-12-18 09:34:23 UTC  

Alright then. It was actually @blueorange22 's article originally, but I made a lot of changes. I may have overstepped.

2018-12-18 14:32:42 UTC  

@Men Are Human Canada is similar to the US in that it has pretty strict regional (provincal/state) vs federal separation of what can be legislated

2018-12-18 14:33:18 UTC  

Everything that is in the https://menarehuman.com/canada-equal-pay/ is talking federal

2018-12-18 14:33:22 UTC  

They are trying to spread this, though, aren't they?

2018-12-18 14:33:55 UTC  

No need to say trying to. I didn't know about the equal pay act of 2018 actually before reading blueorange22's article, but that's a federal version of the formerly ontario legislation

2018-12-18 14:34:37 UTC  

And the Employment Equity Act was federal from the start it seems

2018-12-18 14:34:52 UTC  

I haven't had enough sleep to be talking about this, lol

2018-12-18 14:35:27 UTC  

So, I'm guessing the article is right but the citation is just for the act covering Oneatro?

2018-12-18 14:35:57 UTC  

no, the article is right and the citation is for the federal act (which also explains the history of the act, s tarting in ontario)

2018-12-18 14:36:19 UTC  

the article is completely right in every way and right about Canada as a whole

2018-12-18 14:36:20 UTC  

The link in the article is only for the 1987 pay equality act, needs to be updated to the 2018 one

2018-12-18 14:36:59 UTC  

Oh

2018-12-18 14:37:01 UTC  

I'm wrong

2018-12-18 14:37:06 UTC  

Oh?

2018-12-18 14:37:08 UTC  

Yeah, the citation is for the ontario-only version

2018-12-18 14:37:27 UTC  

Okay, so what is the correct citation?

2018-12-18 14:37:49 UTC  

Finding it now

2018-12-18 14:37:59 UTC  

Thanks a lot

2018-12-18 14:43:25 UTC  

Alright

2018-12-18 14:43:26 UTC  

So

2018-12-18 14:43:40 UTC  

That says the act is right about to become law