Message from @Men Are Human
Discord ID: 526447443735347210
Hey, by the way, we need a group of people to politely answer messages from people the next time the Twitter feed jets jacked by angry SJWs.
I'm thinking people who are in a kind of response squad who are capable of de-escalation and who won't have a meltdown or call people names.
Our goal here is largely to convince lurkers, rather than opponents - however, I have seen opponents convinced by polite facts. Or, at least, made to stop and think.
I would be up for that, I am great at getting myself banned on feminist subs... I mean talking with decent
On a serious note though, I do already actively try to go out of my way to have conversations with those kinds of people, even if it is completely futile, I like to try, because I believe that they are not bad people, they are good people who have just been completely misguided
I could do that from time to time, though I'd need to create a twitter account for it.
I sorta already do that on reddit. The character limit on Twitter would make it a lot harder
I forgot about those word limits, that's a pain
Thanks a lot guys. Maybe I can make a 'response squad' tag for you all that I can @ what do you think?
@Anti-Troll Police
Lol
I'm not sure we should think of them as trolls though, might set a bad mood to confront them in.
@billy-goats-gruff? ;)
@Men Are Human we have that in common - I was stuck in a closet to study too because of bullying, altho i was lucky it was where one of the teachers kept her computer that was always logged into the teachers network (late 90s) and i spent that year reading about the other kids and teachers issues (i was a nosey kid) and changing autocorrect so normal words like 'exam' would correct to silly or rude ones
I hid in the library, mainly
People still got to me, though. But it was rarer.
@asparkofpyrokravte forgot about this! Just to check - what do I need to add to that article about equal pay to make it legit? Do I need a citation, or to add "if you live in Ontario anyway" to the beginning?
Search discord for "Justin Trudeau passed the Pay Equity Act of 2018 earlier this year based on an Ontario act of the same name. The Ontario act was presented as being a measure that guarantees equal pay, but when the language of the bill is examined, there’s a caveat- men are actually not protected, and it is not illegal to pay men less. Take a look (move the link here)"
the text I put around that more or less describes the situation
Thanks!
We should not pick over the earlier readings, only the final bill
Yo, can I also have some facts on rape in canada? My teacher says 1 in 5 women (in canada) are raped but I'm sceptical
Ahahaha
Good to be skeptical of that
1/5 just sounds unlikely
Like, if you have 20 friends...
who are female
its a more serious crime than breaking into a house, which is a felony. imagine 1/4 people having their homes broken into
it just seems too high
For starters, anyone who hasn't seen Cassie's Harry Crouch interview probably should watch it
he starts going through a whole bunch of misleading and false statistics
At 7:17 of the same video he says " Just women. Just women I guess? That never happens to a guy harassing -- that guy never gets harassed at work. Turning off alarm call that's serious.
Turning off a wall clocks making them late meeting them before a job interview but only women that never happens to a guy. Most people would not even pick this up. I see the significance -- I think somebody mentioned the word brainwashing early on how subtle can it get. So then I say "what's the motivation?". Who are the editors of this book who had to approve these passages"
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You see, the 1 in 5 statistic is one way, and quite often in these sorts of things it only measures the victimization of one gender
That's one of the Mary Koss tricks to creating inflated and misleading stats
right, the source is so questionablr
That and identifying something as "rape" contrary to the victim's perception
At 23:25 Crouch says " It's how they put the questions together. Do you realize a lot of the women in that study [the MS Magazine study] who said they had been raped
went back to live either date the man that supposedly raped them and a lot of a
by their own admission didn't even know was rape"
And actually just slightly before that at 22:56 he says in that video: "There's a big difference between an unscientific one unscientific study from
MS magazine in almost 2,500 academic papers and research studies from social
scientists there's a big difference and if you were to put them on a scale
which way which way do you think that scale would weight?". Cassie responds "Well they probably had scientists doing it" to which Crouch retorts "Actually they didn't, go back and look at the research."