Message from @Men Are Human

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2018-12-18 20:07:33 UTC  

@Tomas Oh yeah, they put me in a cupboard with a book because they couldn't control the bullying.

2018-12-18 20:22:13 UTC  

Hey, by the way, we need a group of people to politely answer messages from people the next time the Twitter feed jets jacked by angry SJWs.

2018-12-18 20:23:12 UTC  

I'm thinking people who are in a kind of response squad who are capable of de-escalation and who won't have a meltdown or call people names.

2018-12-18 20:25:38 UTC  

Our goal here is largely to convince lurkers, rather than opponents - however, I have seen opponents convinced by polite facts. Or, at least, made to stop and think.

2018-12-18 20:26:26 UTC  

I would be up for that, I am great at getting myself banned on feminist subs... I mean talking with decent

2018-12-18 20:52:33 UTC  

On a serious note though, I do already actively try to go out of my way to have conversations with those kinds of people, even if it is completely futile, I like to try, because I believe that they are not bad people, they are good people who have just been completely misguided

2018-12-18 21:36:16 UTC  

I could do that from time to time, though I'd need to create a twitter account for it.

2018-12-18 21:37:12 UTC  

I sorta already do that on reddit. The character limit on Twitter would make it a lot harder

2018-12-18 21:53:21 UTC  

I forgot about those word limits, that's a pain

2018-12-19 11:54:06 UTC  

Thanks a lot guys. Maybe I can make a 'response squad' tag for you all that I can @ what do you think?

2018-12-19 12:13:30 UTC  

@Anti-Troll Police

2018-12-19 14:35:03 UTC  

Lol

2018-12-19 14:36:10 UTC  

I'm not sure we should think of them as trolls though, might set a bad mood to confront them in.

2018-12-20 03:17:08 UTC  

@billy-goats-gruff? ;)

2018-12-20 03:25:35 UTC  

@Men Are Human we have that in common - I was stuck in a closet to study too because of bullying, altho i was lucky it was where one of the teachers kept her computer that was always logged into the teachers network (late 90s) and i spent that year reading about the other kids and teachers issues (i was a nosey kid) and changing autocorrect so normal words like 'exam' would correct to silly or rude ones

2018-12-20 09:04:54 UTC  

I hid in the library, mainly

2018-12-20 09:05:07 UTC  

People still got to me, though. But it was rarer.

2018-12-21 14:45:08 UTC  

@asparkofpyrokravte forgot about this! Just to check - what do I need to add to that article about equal pay to make it legit? Do I need a citation, or to add "if you live in Ontario anyway" to the beginning?

2018-12-21 17:41:47 UTC  

Search discord for "Justin Trudeau passed the Pay Equity Act of 2018 earlier this year based on an Ontario act of the same name. The Ontario act was presented as being a measure that guarantees equal pay, but when the language of the bill is examined, there’s a caveat- men are actually not protected, and it is not illegal to pay men less. Take a look (move the link here)"

2018-12-21 17:41:59 UTC  

the text I put around that more or less describes the situation

2018-12-21 19:53:06 UTC  

Thanks!

2018-12-23 17:14:11 UTC  

Okay, so this is the new law and we really need to pick over it.

2018-12-23 17:14:32 UTC  

We should not pick over the earlier readings, only the final bill

2018-12-27 22:58:33 UTC  

Yo, can I also have some facts on rape in canada? My teacher says 1 in 5 women (in canada) are raped but I'm sceptical

2018-12-28 01:09:45 UTC  

Ahahaha

2018-12-28 01:09:52 UTC  

Good to be skeptical of that

2018-12-28 01:11:05 UTC  

1/5 just sounds unlikely

2018-12-28 01:11:22 UTC  

Like, if you have 20 friends...

2018-12-28 01:11:34 UTC  

who are female

2018-12-28 01:14:12 UTC  

its a more serious crime than breaking into a house, which is a felony. imagine 1/4 people having their homes broken into

2018-12-28 01:14:28 UTC  

it just seems too high

2018-12-28 01:17:46 UTC  

For starters, anyone who hasn't seen Cassie's Harry Crouch interview probably should watch it

2018-12-28 01:18:06 UTC  

he starts going through a whole bunch of misleading and false statistics

2018-12-28 01:20:45 UTC  

At 7:17 of the same video he says " Just women. Just women I guess? That never happens to a guy harassing -- that guy never gets harassed at work. Turning off alarm call that's serious.
Turning off a wall clocks making them late meeting them before a job interview but only women that never happens to a guy. Most people would not even pick this up. I see the significance -- I think somebody mentioned the word brainwashing early on how subtle can it get. So then I say "what's the motivation?". Who are the editors of this book who had to approve these passages"

2018-12-28 01:20:57 UTC  

..

2018-12-28 01:21:17 UTC  

You see, the 1 in 5 statistic is one way, and quite often in these sorts of things it only measures the victimization of one gender

2018-12-28 01:21:31 UTC  

That's one of the Mary Koss tricks to creating inflated and misleading stats

2018-12-28 01:21:54 UTC  

right, the source is so questionablr

2018-12-28 01:21:58 UTC  

That and identifying something as "rape" contrary to the victim's perception