Message from @Suzaku Kururugi

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2019-02-26 22:44:44 UTC  

I would not judge this an apt comparison to feminism

2019-02-26 22:45:00 UTC  

Well that's how powerful feminism is compared to MRAs

2019-02-26 22:45:09 UTC  

Who does the media support?

2019-02-26 22:45:15 UTC  

Feminists.

2019-02-26 22:45:26 UTC  

Who do the younger generation support?

2019-02-26 22:45:27 UTC  

society is fickle

2019-02-26 22:45:28 UTC  

Feminists

2019-02-26 22:45:37 UTC  

Feminism is in vogue right now

2019-02-26 22:45:39 UTC  

but thats not power

2019-02-26 22:46:19 UTC  

its influence, sure

2019-02-26 22:46:23 UTC  

but not power

2019-02-26 22:46:27 UTC  

I'll put it this way....

2019-02-26 22:46:41 UTC  

adolescence is idealism and wanting to fight every battle

2019-02-26 22:46:56 UTC  

Adulthood is pragmatism and realizing some battles can't be won

2019-02-26 22:46:59 UTC  

this is another opinion, which is different than a fact

2019-02-26 22:47:40 UTC  

@Suzaku Kururugi that does not answer the question. Why are trying to get people to give up rather than fight? If your opinion is that things are hopeless, why are bothering?

2019-02-26 22:48:37 UTC  

My point is your enemy outnumbers and outpowers you dramatically....so you don't have the luxury to spread out so thin and focus on trivial things

2019-02-26 22:48:46 UTC  

There are bigger fish to fry

2019-02-26 22:49:02 UTC  

Affirmative action is a far bigger issue

2019-02-26 22:49:30 UTC  

And it honestly seems most MRAs either don't realize this

2019-02-26 22:49:40 UTC  

or fear being politically incorrect

2019-02-26 22:50:40 UTC  

Your opinion is that feminism is too powerful and that the MRM should give up and no one should have children. Why is that issue any different? It's not. You're avoiding the question because your intent here is to sow discord

2019-02-26 22:51:14 UTC  

Any more discussion of this from you will be considered trolling for right now.

2019-02-26 22:52:12 UTC  

Am I allowed to answer the question or no?

2019-02-26 22:52:28 UTC  

As it stands, no

2019-02-26 22:52:47 UTC  

ok, fair enough. I'll just say that I don't want to sow discord.

2019-02-26 22:53:26 UTC  

I apologise if that's true. I hope it is temporary

2019-02-26 23:34:45 UTC  

@InsaneCaterpilla "I think it's abhorrent that your opinion is that men are evil for trying to live their life to the fullest and do their best by the children they bring into this world". This idea is less weird when you think of it as saying that the reason we have children isn't so that we can play with them, but so that they can play with the world. If the world isn't good for the kid, then how does one justify childbirth?

2019-02-26 23:35:36 UTC  

What weirds me out is suggesting that the issues unique to men make the difference between "better to never have been" and not

2019-02-26 23:44:11 UTC  

As far as feminism being too powerful. Probably not. However, whether the MRM will ever be able to achieve some of its goals *is* a serious question. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW5lV5Xy2ic&feature=youtu.be&t=74

2019-02-26 23:44:34 UTC  

I think that's actually a wonderful debate topic

2019-02-26 23:44:57 UTC  

Better than antinatalism at any rate 😉

2019-02-27 21:07:19 UTC  

I like the video. I've never thought that men's rights would become accepted in the world today as it means society (and all the people in it) changing its views of men. But there is hope for the future to change things, little by little, to have our voices heard and make the future a little brighter day by day. I know us here have compassion for men. Others can learn to have it too.

2019-02-27 21:10:27 UTC  

As the video says, there doesn't need to be enough people like that for men's rights to be considered 'main stream'. Just enough to ensure that things go in the right direction and make things fairer for men in the world.

2019-02-28 01:29:41 UTC  

Haha, yeah, we don't have much of a disagreement there.

2019-02-28 10:50:45 UTC  

@Suzaku Kururugi A defensive pact with America, England, and Europe to shoot down any and all nukes coming their way. 😃

2019-02-28 10:52:35 UTC  

what?

2019-02-28 10:52:53 UTC  

do you mean NATO?

2019-02-28 11:03:51 UTC  

Literally anything that can shoot down incoming nukes would solve the problem.

2019-03-01 11:24:07 UTC  

they're working on lasers for that