Message from @basedgringo

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2019-01-26 06:35:19 UTC  

Btw, that survey is ending. The author of the survey has said: "In the interest of full disclosure, I want to give a heads up about when data collection will end. The OP was posted to the subreddit at approximately 7:30 PM EST, Tuesday, January 22. As of 7:30 PM this evening (1/25), the response rate has slowed substantially. Therefore, I intend to close the survey tomorrow evening at 7:30 PM EST (date: 1/26)." https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/aito5l/18_recruiting_members_of_the_mens_rights/

2019-01-26 06:35:54 UTC  

he said that 2 hours ago

2019-01-26 10:38:44 UTC  

/u/BlueOrange22 posted a new link in /r/MensRights Homeless man sentenced to 6 years for trying to buy toothpaste with counterfeit $20. Would the privileged class of society be treated that way? - https://redd.it/ajumpl

2019-01-26 12:11:28 UTC  

I saw that.. it does seem ridiculous, at the same time though, he has priors which seem to include creating counterfeit notes

2019-01-26 13:06:03 UTC  

That's fair - but six years for it?

2019-01-26 14:58:31 UTC  

At least he's not homeless anymore /s

2019-01-26 18:16:34 UTC  

How do we tap into the pro-choice movement to support male financial abortion?

2019-01-26 18:17:03 UTC  

Women can use birth control, abortion, safe surrender, or any number of things if they do not want to support a child. Men have zero options.

2019-01-26 18:18:15 UTC  

Reliable male birth control in pill form will be a step in the right direction honestly

2019-01-26 18:18:58 UTC  

Remove the likelihood of accidental children and people will hopefully be more willing to examine the other issues

2019-01-26 18:19:48 UTC  

As it is a woman can lie about being on birth control and entrap a man, remove that power from them though, and who knows what happens

2019-01-26 18:22:18 UTC  

I've seen plenty of pro-choice feminist types say that consent to sex is consent to a child and everything that goes with it for men, not seeing the disconnect with that logic and women's rights. I doubt aiming the convo at those debating such issues is the way to go, rather at the general populace would be better

2019-01-26 18:23:27 UTC  

That's interesting that pro-choice feminists would use that argument

2019-01-26 18:24:00 UTC  

It applies to them as well, consent to sex is consent to the possibility of a child so why would they be pro-choice?

2019-01-26 18:24:04 UTC  

I don't know, I think hijacking "My body my choice" seems worthwhile

2019-01-26 18:24:30 UTC  

Being enslaved for 18 years is definitely violation of bodily sanctity

2019-01-26 18:24:33 UTC  

"My wallet my choice" is definitely a line I've seen used and it always gets people up in a hissyfit

2019-01-26 18:25:34 UTC  

Are people organizing protests about these issues at all? What is the plan to get the laws changed?

2019-01-26 18:26:56 UTC  

Education is the most important thing right now, we have to get people on our side before anything is going to change

2019-01-26 18:27:19 UTC  

How is that being accomplished

2019-01-26 18:27:50 UTC  

Ironically, things like the Gillette ad are making a lot of men and some women more sympathetic to our causes

2019-01-26 18:28:13 UTC  

Turns out telling half the population they're terrible people doesn't really sit well

2019-01-26 18:28:48 UTC  

It's funny, my facebook was filled with one woman repeatedly posting about how offended and thin skinned men were... LMFAO

2019-01-26 18:29:00 UTC  

The problem is that a lot of people still think men's issues are nonexistant or overexaggerated... So making more people aware of them is still the main thing to do

2019-01-26 18:29:02 UTC  

I told her, "You're more obsessed with this ad than any man I've seen."

2019-01-26 18:29:14 UTC  

She got triggered

2019-01-26 18:30:04 UTC  

InsaneCaterpilla is right, the main thing right now is to inform people of the issues and that they are *actually* issues, it's difficult though

2019-01-26 18:30:24 UTC  

You have to be prepared to lose friends and family over not just sitting down and shutting up

2019-01-26 18:30:48 UTC  

I've seen women talk about how they're ostracized from their friends because they brought up men's issues

2019-01-26 18:32:59 UTC  

I had some socialists haras me on facebook everytime I post something

2019-01-26 18:34:22 UTC  

Honestly man I couldn't even begin to count the subreddits I'm banned from, not because I post anything hateful, but because they hate reasonable arguments

2019-01-26 18:35:24 UTC  

I find these totalitarians rather comical, but also scary

2019-01-27 05:13:13 UTC  

I’m worried the MRM and MRA are consistently looked at in a negative light.

2019-01-27 05:14:11 UTC  

Oh, no, that’s a fact, we are looked at very negatively

2019-01-27 05:14:47 UTC  

Perception will always be negative. Fuck it.

2019-01-27 05:15:01 UTC  

It's upto us to change that, we must not let feminists get awaw with hitjobs and misrepresentations

2019-01-27 05:15:16 UTC  

But it’s not even just feminists I’m afraid

2019-01-27 05:15:35 UTC  

I’m worried it’s more of how people would assume the “MRM” is run or is run.

2019-01-27 05:15:39 UTC  

I sense some absurd concern.

2019-01-27 05:16:14 UTC  

Like many people don’t think there is legit issues and it sounds stupid but if you don’t think of men’s issues you wouldn’t think there is a need for a MRM