Remove the likelihood of accidental children and people will hopefully be more willing to examine the other issues

As it is a woman can lie about being on birth control and entrap a man, remove that power from them though, and who knows what happens

I've seen plenty of pro-choice feminist types say that consent to sex is consent to a child and everything that goes with it for men, not seeing the disconnect with that logic and women's rights. I doubt aiming the convo at those debating such issues is the way to go, rather at the general populace would be better

That's interesting that pro-choice feminists would use that argument

It applies to them as well, consent to sex is consent to the possibility of a child so why would they be pro-choice?

I don't know, I think hijacking "My body my choice" seems worthwhile

Being enslaved for 18 years is definitely violation of bodily sanctity

"My wallet my choice" is definitely a line I've seen used and it always gets people up in a hissyfit

Are people organizing protests about these issues at all? What is the plan to get the laws changed?

Education is the most important thing right now, we have to get people on our side before anything is going to change

How is that being accomplished

Ironically, things like the Gillette ad are making a lot of men and some women more sympathetic to our causes

Turns out telling half the population they're terrible people doesn't really sit well

It's funny, my facebook was filled with one woman repeatedly posting about how offended and thin skinned men were... LMFAO

The problem is that a lot of people still think men's issues are nonexistant or overexaggerated... So making more people aware of them is still the main thing to do

I told her, "You're more obsessed with this ad than any man I've seen."

She got triggered

InsaneCaterpilla is right, the main thing right now is to inform people of the issues and that they are *actually* issues, it's difficult though

You have to be prepared to lose friends and family over not just sitting down and shutting up

I've seen women talk about how they're ostracized from their friends because they brought up men's issues

I had some socialists haras me on facebook everytime I post something

Honestly man I couldn't even begin to count the subreddits I'm banned from, not because I post anything hateful, but because they hate reasonable arguments

I find these totalitarians rather comical, but also scary

I’m worried the MRM and MRA are consistently looked at in a negative light.

Oh, no, that’s a fact, we are looked at very negatively

Perception will always be negative. Fuck it.

It's upto us to change that, we must not let feminists get awaw with hitjobs and misrepresentations

But it’s not even just feminists I’m afraid

I’m worried it’s more of how people would assume the “MRM” is run or is run.

I sense some absurd concern.

Like many people don’t think there is legit issues and it sounds stupid but if you don’t think of men’s issues you wouldn’t think there is a need for a MRM

Like I don’t blame the people I just wish we could do something!

I big push!

Start a real conversation

Get people thinking.

Right and we are. Perception should be ignored at times though in consideration of the larger and more important goals of our movement.

Yes

And the reality is not everyone is going to agree with us

Perception is very important

Just human nature

We are seeing a change in mrm awareness among people