Message from @InsaneCaterpilla
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Oh yes. It's all about controlling the argument. If you are the only one who is allowed to speak, then you can say whatever you want. It's the kind of power-move Putin makes where the truth doesn't matter. That's why they define everything in metrics of power.
I'd also say it is due to how many women are used to discussion and social group. If you can shame and ostracise somebody and 'other' them within your group of friends they are excluded. In my experience at least, most men are more accepting of differences. You don't need to agree to respect someone, nor does disagreeing with someone make you respect them less. I do agree it's strange how much feminism is able to propose/say/comment on when it comes to men, when replacing 'men' with any other group would be deemed very racist.
Imo the element of unhinged misandry within feminism will destroy it eventually,, the question is more what will happen in the meantime as the pendulum resets.
I have a hunch they will try to stall by claiming that every MRM victory is, depending on what it is, either a feminist victory or an outright attack on women.
Let them whine.
It's not so much the whining I'm worried about, but their ability to present that as fact and use it to undermine our movement
Possible. But if we are successful in obtaining legal victories, that’s more important
True, but I don't think we should underestimate propaganda victories on their part. One issue I see is that a lot of our current and past victories aren't linked to us. For example - I think we need to claim things like the gay rights movement and all those legal victories specifically as being Men's Rights. I've seen feminists try to claim similar things - when in actuallity they opposed them at the time.
Nothing like some good ol' victim blaming to start the morning off right
Apparently it's mens' fault that no one pays attention when they're sexually assaulted
Men's rights is through, pack it up guys and girls, we can all go home now
Yeah.
They like to say that Toxic Masculinity is caused by hatred of women.
And all male issues, including suicide, are based on Toxic M
Maybe tell them that you have never, ever, ever, seen a feminist as a sex object. XD
Toxic masculinity is just the boogeyman for people who hate men
It wouldn't be too difficult to create a counterpart to women
It would. I think the idea is really kinda awful either way though,. I think we should talk about toxic behavior in general, not try to blame a gender.
Apparently the law should be changed so that women can take kids out of the country away from their fathers on a whim
Yep, all they need to do is make an allegation
What?????? You don't #believewomen?
#misogyny
i think 2019 is off to a good start for the MRM. it really feels like society is beginning to to "turn a corner" in terms of awareness/attitude. not that we're there yet, but the flow is starting to shift
Agreed
Ain't that the truth
Nobody gives a shit if we live or 🎲
Just asked a girl about her thoughts on feminism and she “didn’t know what that word meant”
That's probably a good thing
It is surprised though. What country are you in?
maybe she meant it as "its so confusing to know what it actually is these days because so many different people say different things"
considering basically every feminist I've met doesn't use the dictionary definition of the word I'd say she has a point
That's the problem with using a dictionary to define an evolving ideology... It just can't and won't define them, not for long, and will absolutely be used to misrepresent a group
I feel like the dictionary definition of feminism is still accurate
It's also only an interpretation of that ideology. There are many others
I don't.
Feminism has never been for equality, only benefits for women, right from the start
that is the dictionary definition of feminism... a women's rights movement