Message from @Xinyue
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yeah
That’s the absolute first thing.
And thankfully in the US people are still armed
The task is getting them to use said arms to good use
Maybe it would be good to elliminate big corpo from the market and replace it with a mixture of private business owners and maybe worker communes (hate the name). Such structures could be more socially responsible then what we have now.
@Aki you said "The way I see it we have two theoretical models that do not exist in practice. What we have in practice are markets with varying levels of regulation." this would be a conflation of capitalism with a laissez faire economy, capitalism in no way discusses regulation its the idea of having capital.
I'd agree that laissez faire is not reasonably possible
most notably because regulations on safety and polution
What I meant is the free market model. Outside of that I don't find arguing about definitions to be particularly productive... but I also don't think that using a definition that encompasses everything outside of some autistic commie wet dream to be particularly practical. ;p Putting aside the fact that we disagree about what should be regulated (and that is a given taking the into account some booming facts ;p) I think that the reason why a free market can't exist in practice is the same reason why communism can't exist in practice and that is the so called human nature. We are too tribal to be able to live as individuals alone and too individualistic to be treated like automatons.
> founder of capitalism
> Karl Marx
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I think they may be referring to how Marx coined the term Capitalism?
even then id say Adam Smith was the founder
Marx coined the term, but he didn't create the system he called capitalism
imagine thinking that Marx created a system just to destroy it
Pretty Chad move right there
God-Marx, who creates economic systems only so that he could urge the masses to destroy them
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Marx and all the other commie revolutionaries were a bunch of of subversive kikes. fuck em and their shit system.
If you genuinely believe in Marxism or Communism you are fooling yourself
The system doesn't work
Its that simple
It fails and causes suffering where ever it is implemented
uh, no
it did work
literally did
Barely
The French communes?
Revolutionary Catalonia?
These "states" barely sustained themselves and only existed because nobody bother to enforce the law there.
And we're swept like flies as soon as their former non communist governments decided to take the land back.
I don't see how they're appealing
no I mean the USSR did work, it didn't crumble or anything
during 1950s, 1960s or 1970s
it did function
as the system was ultimately reworked to oblivion, it eventually began to dysfunction, because the way it had been reformed to operate no longer matched the model that it had been set up with
Brezhnev and the Kosygin gang started this trend, and Gorbachev completed it
The ussr killed too many people
It failed
It couldnt afford to maintain itself