In what way

Because clearly if your goal is no immigration this doesn’t serve that but any conversation we could have would be unproductive

The issue as it stands is improvements to ensure effective immigration, i would suggest

Any conversation on this issue at least

Hmmm... I would say that my goal would vary depending on the host country. When we are talking about USA or Germany or UK or France that alreay have big problems with minorites and at the same time falling birthrates I would be aiming at halting all migration from the third word countries and drastically limiting it from all others.

I disagree but it is relevant for the purposes of this discussion that military service as a selector for immigration would not need to be mutually exclusive to other policies and could be used in conjunction with your preferred plan

It would also provide a buffer of the length of service before those members enter civil society

If you can accept being particularly callous you could demand the service as a condition to even be considered for citizenship

Ok... I see that we have reached some conclusion that I guess both you and me are ok with.

At least in that military service might be a valid prevision for consideration of citizenship

I could agree with that.

I’m glad we could hash that out. I think the conversation was productive for both of us

Yup I agree! I kinda need to analyse this train of thoughts a bit more before continuing... maybe... if it is necesairy I guess... but yeah I think it was a productive discussion.

I’d be happy to continue when you’ve done so.

The Nation of Islam needs to be outlawed

why

they understand that whites and blacks should stay away from each other

farrakhan is pretty redpilled imo

although hes not consistent

They assassinate and use violence to intimidate people in order to not speak out against them and generally censor opposition

well they did kill malcolm x

Yeah. Because he left the group, tried to convert, and spoke out against their shitty beliefs

What did they do? Put 21 rounds into him.

i honestly dont know what to think about them

you might think theyre shit but they understand the importance of having separate communities

theyre kinda like the KKK

em the modern ones

not the old lynching ones

I think if a religious organization uses violence for political means that they are by definition terrorists and should not be legal

they also hate jews

theres that

I wouldn’t say that’s really a good thing..

nah its defo a good thing

Then we think differently.

maybe theyll be pushed to go back to their homeland israel

and can finally leave our politics alone

It's always the jews with you people, you can't discuss a single topic without them being brought up

^

But then again, anti-semitism is a major component of the NOI’s beliefs

Being in every topic says something about them, but anyway, it's usually the same people that bring them up.

I think it’s more the latter than the former, curse. Otherwise I’m broadly onside with you @Flat but given the grievances you cite with them are already illegal is it necessary to ban the organisation itself?