In any case they would be a very fine minority

also I am not sure if you have any data that shows ethnic composition of French foreign legion and how well they integrate after the service... how well their children integrate etc

and they wouldn't appreciate their comrades being treated as cannon fodder

plus you also have minorities that are already in the contrues of origin

and they will most likely be interested in this

I’m not sure either but I need not limit myself to the legion. Other foreign units exist. Again, those who have earned the citizenship in such a capacity will always be a very slim minority which will call into question the efficacy on spending time chasing such a niche vote. Minorities originating from that country are also unlikely to empathise with those who earn service through citizenship as that service creates a very wide cultural gap and difference in experience. Not to mention the normal tensions between military members and civilians

There is also the point that justified or no, the argument that they knew what they signed up for is persuasive and that’s the cost of getting what they want

I understand if any immigration is undesirable for you that this is not a policy which serves your aims but it is hard to see in what ways you might see this as not a strict improvement over the conventional process

Even accepting your criticism as valid, which clearly I do not, this process creates undoubtably a more thorough process of vetting the commitment of future citizens

There is a lot of assumptions and guesses that don't have a lot back em up here on the other hand are some examples how the media sees minorities in the military: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/study-shoes-black-service-members-punished-more-in-military_us_5938847ce4b0b13f2c66da83?guccounter=1

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/07/26/transgender-ban-america-and-military-always-regret-discrimination/514060001/

There is a lot of this type of crap in google.. those are just some example

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These are also domestic troops Aki with families back home

There is no reason why it wouldn't translate to the foreign legion.

It is not like their families write those artickles mind you

and yeah I would agree that this vetting process is a step forward

I would like to know how you believe this process would be worse then conventional immigration however and to my knowledge there is very little push to make the legion or Gurkhas more inclusive or less unrelenting

but I don't think it is a goal to be aimed at

In what way

Because clearly if your goal is no immigration this doesn’t serve that but any conversation we could have would be unproductive

The issue as it stands is improvements to ensure effective immigration, i would suggest

Any conversation on this issue at least

Hmmm... I would say that my goal would vary depending on the host country. When we are talking about USA or Germany or UK or France that alreay have big problems with minorites and at the same time falling birthrates I would be aiming at halting all migration from the third word countries and drastically limiting it from all others.

I disagree but it is relevant for the purposes of this discussion that military service as a selector for immigration would not need to be mutually exclusive to other policies and could be used in conjunction with your preferred plan

It would also provide a buffer of the length of service before those members enter civil society

If you can accept being particularly callous you could demand the service as a condition to even be considered for citizenship

Ok... I see that we have reached some conclusion that I guess both you and me are ok with.

At least in that military service might be a valid prevision for consideration of citizenship

I could agree with that.

I’m glad we could hash that out. I think the conversation was productive for both of us

Yup I agree! I kinda need to analyse this train of thoughts a bit more before continuing... maybe... if it is necesairy I guess... but yeah I think it was a productive discussion.

I’d be happy to continue when you’ve done so.

The Nation of Islam needs to be outlawed

why

they understand that whites and blacks should stay away from each other

farrakhan is pretty redpilled imo

although hes not consistent

They assassinate and use violence to intimidate people in order to not speak out against them and generally censor opposition

well they did kill malcolm x

Yeah. Because he left the group, tried to convert, and spoke out against their shitty beliefs