It would also provide a buffer of the length of service before those members enter civil society

If you can accept being particularly callous you could demand the service as a condition to even be considered for citizenship

Ok... I see that we have reached some conclusion that I guess both you and me are ok with.

At least in that military service might be a valid prevision for consideration of citizenship

I could agree with that.

I’m glad we could hash that out. I think the conversation was productive for both of us

Yup I agree! I kinda need to analyse this train of thoughts a bit more before continuing... maybe... if it is necesairy I guess... but yeah I think it was a productive discussion.

I’d be happy to continue when you’ve done so.

The Nation of Islam needs to be outlawed

why

they understand that whites and blacks should stay away from each other

farrakhan is pretty redpilled imo

although hes not consistent

They assassinate and use violence to intimidate people in order to not speak out against them and generally censor opposition

well they did kill malcolm x

Yeah. Because he left the group, tried to convert, and spoke out against their shitty beliefs

What did they do? Put 21 rounds into him.

i honestly dont know what to think about them

you might think theyre shit but they understand the importance of having separate communities

theyre kinda like the KKK

em the modern ones

not the old lynching ones

I think if a religious organization uses violence for political means that they are by definition terrorists and should not be legal

they also hate jews

theres that

I wouldn’t say that’s really a good thing..

nah its defo a good thing

Then we think differently.

maybe theyll be pushed to go back to their homeland israel

and can finally leave our politics alone

It's always the jews with you people, you can't discuss a single topic without them being brought up

^

But then again, anti-semitism is a major component of the NOI’s beliefs

Being in every topic says something about them, but anyway, it's usually the same people that bring them up.

I think it’s more the latter than the former, curse. Otherwise I’m broadly onside with you @Flat but given the grievances you cite with them are already illegal is it necessary to ban the organisation itself?

That's like saying that when SJWs are calling right-wingers nazis it says more about right-wingers than SJWs. I'm not one for zionism but constantly going "*ooga booga, ITS DA JOOOZ*" is just alienating honest everyday people from the nationalist struggle and is condeming it to prepetual irrelevance and fringe existens

Well the problem with the jewish people is that there will always be zionists that act like parasites in the countries they live in. Thats why theyve been kicked out of 109 nations. Im not a fan of violence against innocent hardworking people but the Jews have their own homeland where they can live in peace and can leave the people of the Americas and Europe alone. Its the only way this can be fair for everyone.

Israel was declared in 1948. Before that, Jewish people were innocent, hardworking people living in Europe. I do not see how a relocation for people to some desert land after they toiled and worked in Europe for generations is fair.
Also prejudice against the outgroup somehow being the victims' fault is not an argument.

^This, it could also be argued that since jews have been living and working in Europe since the age of romans they are a part of the European identity
If you believe that part about Jews being the subject of prognoms are their own fault you should read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis

@Orwell you may also be interested to give this a peek as it does an interesting summary of the actual reasons Jews were expelled from many communities (https://www.reddit.com/r/TopMindsOfReddit/comments/72974t/antisemitism_is_historically_a_result_of_jewish/?st=JQ2BIDTY&sh=98dc9aa5)
If you want to skip to the point expulsions consistently have less to do with “acting like parasites” and consistently more to do with them not being Christian and that being an outgroup you could take their shit without too much backlash

Long story short, your narrative does not hold up to historical scrutiny