since the situation is so fucking absurd

"Rape is your only option to survive"

@The Big Oof Ok, the problem is youre viewing the rape as wrong because of consquences

rather than it being wrong cause...rape

not only that

he said acts are moral if it helps the group survive

The action itself is wrong because it hurts someone else when it doesn't need to

and

let's scroll up

to what I said

"among other things"

so in a situation where it's the only option to survive it's bad because it will be followed by conflict

But that implies the moral consquences are viewed as minimal

a more accurate phrase for moral subjectivity is moral hypocrisy; you are unable of following through with what you claim to be moral, nevermind in real life, you can't do it in words

its like thinking the main reason people dont murder is because they dont want to be arrested

"What if the only option to worship God is to kill your neighboring village, would you do it?"

the jews did

it's fair to ask me the same thing, though

would you?

No

i mean, they saw it as the only way to survive

@PunishedMuskovy
```The action itself is wrong because it hurts someone else when it doesn't need to
and
let's scroll up
to what I said
"among other things"
```

If God told me to do X id do X

The problem and the reason why I don't invoke the empathy argument

is because it's never

"good enough"

so they massacred the men, children & women of a competing tribe, you wouldn't do that? or in other words, was what they did morally right?

TBH yes hypotheticals are a bad option

Anyways

Unless the hypothetical is smart

Let's get back on track

Yes, it's bad because it causes unnecessary harm

it's bad because it has consequences for your group

and for other reasons

isn't the very first principle that what is good is what helps you survive?

That is the root of morality, empathy exists to encourage you

1. To work with others.
2. To not hurt others, so that they will want to work you

or to help others

so they will return the favor

So yes, empathy is justified since it was given to us through evolution

for those reasons

Civilizations that are inherently selfish do not last