Message from @Agonos

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2019-01-20 22:53:37 UTC  

you're gay

2019-01-20 22:53:39 UTC  

you are gay

2019-01-20 22:53:43 UTC  

No, this is a very cherry picked hypothetical

2019-01-20 22:53:56 UTC  

Not representative of a real situation

2019-01-20 22:54:09 UTC  

But you're going to pretend that it is

2019-01-20 22:54:14 UTC  

that's a fundamental misunderstanding of how logic works then

2019-01-20 22:54:31 UTC  

No, it's not, it's a nonsense attempt at playing games, and I'm just not doing it

2019-01-20 22:54:38 UTC  

done

2019-01-20 22:54:40 UTC  

lmao

2019-01-20 22:54:42 UTC  

nigga hypotheticals are cherry picked by default

2019-01-20 22:54:46 UTC  

^

2019-01-20 22:54:47 UTC  

this

2019-01-20 22:54:53 UTC  

it's supposed to test your propositions

2019-01-20 22:55:28 UTC  

but you bitch about it being unfair because what you say justifies morally reprehensible acts doesn't seem to be true when you create a situation in which it's tested

2019-01-20 22:55:30 UTC  

Hypotheticals are meant to determine what you would do in a given situation

2019-01-20 22:55:36 UTC  

since the situation is so fucking absurd

2019-01-20 22:55:47 UTC  

"Rape is your only option to survive"

2019-01-20 22:55:56 UTC  

@The Big Oof Ok, the problem is youre viewing the rape as wrong because of consquences

2019-01-20 22:56:03 UTC  

rather than it being wrong cause...rape

2019-01-20 22:56:13 UTC  

not only that

2019-01-20 22:56:24 UTC  

he said acts are moral if it helps the group survive

2019-01-20 22:56:30 UTC  

The action itself is wrong because it hurts someone else when it doesn't need to

2019-01-20 22:56:30 UTC  

and

2019-01-20 22:56:33 UTC  

let's scroll up

2019-01-20 22:56:35 UTC  

to what I said

2019-01-20 22:56:38 UTC  

"among other things"

2019-01-20 22:56:38 UTC  

so in a situation where it's the only option to survive it's bad because it will be followed by conflict

2019-01-20 22:57:09 UTC  

But that implies the moral consquences are viewed as minimal

2019-01-20 22:57:13 UTC  

a more accurate phrase for moral subjectivity is moral hypocrisy; you are unable of following through with what you claim to be moral, nevermind in real life, you can't do it in words

2019-01-20 22:57:40 UTC  

its like thinking the main reason people dont murder is because they dont want to be arrested

2019-01-20 22:58:02 UTC  

"What if the only option to worship God is to kill your neighboring village, would you do it?"

2019-01-20 22:58:10 UTC  

the jews did

2019-01-20 22:58:11 UTC  

it's fair to ask me the same thing, though

2019-01-20 22:58:12 UTC  

would you?

2019-01-20 22:58:16 UTC  

No

2019-01-20 22:58:32 UTC  

i mean, they saw it as the only way to survive

2019-01-20 22:58:38 UTC  

@PunishedMuskovy
```The action itself is wrong because it hurts someone else when it doesn't need to
and
let's scroll up
to what I said
"among other things"
```

2019-01-20 22:58:42 UTC  

If God told me to do X id do X

2019-01-20 22:58:48 UTC  

The problem and the reason why I don't invoke the empathy argument

2019-01-20 22:58:51 UTC  

is because it's never

2019-01-20 22:58:53 UTC  

"good enough"