https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immigration-priority-south-african-farmers-facing-systematic-land-confiscations-and-murder

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>truth... to a certain point

so we don't know means it's not truth?

what a weird thing to equivocate on

@The Big Oof let's say you're part of society A & your group has a rampant shortage of women, which will lead to the death of your group due to lack of procreation. Given that morality is subjective & you are part of this group, is it morally right for you to abduct & rape the women of neighboring tribes to survive?

instead of writing that you could say yes or no

I have enough info to ask that question, but im not wasting another second reading what you've written before

doesn't matter

it's not a trap

it's a hypothetical, it's used to test what you say

no

the prediction is right

what i said was pretty explicit & obvious

don't dance around the bush

@The Big Oof let's say you're part of society A & your group has a rampant shortage of women, which will lead to the death of your group due to lack of procreation. Given that morality is subjective & you are part of this group, is it morally right for you to abduct & rape the women of neighboring tribes to survive?

it is

raping is the only option in this

again

stop dancing around it

@The Big Oof let's say you're part of society A & your group has a rampant shortage of women, which will lead to the death of your group due to lack of procreation, rape is the only option to survive. Given that morality is subjective & you are part of this group, is it morally right for you to abduct & rape the women of neighboring tribes to survive?

happy?

you're playing word games

i want to know your answer

im being assertive

no

there is no relations with that other tribe if you don't do anything

you will die

so it makes no sense of going past the "survival" part that makes things morally justifiable

i think you're a hypocrite

you want to seem edgy, so you claim retarded shit like this but when asked if your "morality" would hold up in a hypothetical, you find reasons to not say "rape is ok if it helps my tribe surive"

in other words

you're gay

you are gay

that's a fundamental misunderstanding of how logic works then

lmao

^

this

it's supposed to test your propositions

but you bitch about it being unfair because what you say justifies morally reprehensible acts doesn't seem to be true when you create a situation in which it's tested

not only that

he said acts are moral if it helps the group survive

so in a situation where it's the only option to survive it's bad because it will be followed by conflict

a more accurate phrase for moral subjectivity is moral hypocrisy; you are unable of following through with what you claim to be moral, nevermind in real life, you can't do it in words

the jews did

would you?

i mean, they saw it as the only way to survive

so they massacred the men, children & women of a competing tribe, you wouldn't do that? or in other words, was what they did morally right?

isn't the very first principle that what is good is what helps you survive?