Message from @The Big Oof
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it's supposed to test your propositions
but you bitch about it being unfair because what you say justifies morally reprehensible acts doesn't seem to be true when you create a situation in which it's tested
Hypotheticals are meant to determine what you would do in a given situation
since the situation is so fucking absurd
"Rape is your only option to survive"
@The Big Oof Ok, the problem is youre viewing the rape as wrong because of consquences
rather than it being wrong cause...rape
not only that
he said acts are moral if it helps the group survive
The action itself is wrong because it hurts someone else when it doesn't need to
and
let's scroll up
to what I said
"among other things"
so in a situation where it's the only option to survive it's bad because it will be followed by conflict
But that implies the moral consquences are viewed as minimal
a more accurate phrase for moral subjectivity is moral hypocrisy; you are unable of following through with what you claim to be moral, nevermind in real life, you can't do it in words
its like thinking the main reason people dont murder is because they dont want to be arrested
"What if the only option to worship God is to kill your neighboring village, would you do it?"
the jews did
would you?
No
i mean, they saw it as the only way to survive
@PunishedMuskovy
```The action itself is wrong because it hurts someone else when it doesn't need to
and
let's scroll up
to what I said
"among other things"
```
If God told me to do X id do X
The problem and the reason why I don't invoke the empathy argument
is because it's never
"good enough"
so they massacred the men, children & women of a competing tribe, you wouldn't do that? or in other words, was what they did morally right?
TBH yes hypotheticals are a bad option
Anyways
Unless the hypothetical is smart
Let's get back on track
Yes, it's bad because it causes unnecessary harm
it's bad because it has consequences for your group
and for other reasons
isn't the very first principle that what is good is what helps you survive?
That is the root of morality, empathy exists to encourage you
1. To work with others.
2. To not hurt others, so that they will want to work you
or to help others
so they will return the favor