Message from @The Big Oof
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"Also, what you just did Bearer was deflect @𝕭𝖊𝖆𝖗𝖊𝖗 𝖔𝖋 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝕮𝖚𝖗𝖘𝖊
You didn't answer my question, you attempted to force me into an area you thought would I would be weaker in
so let's return to that
What can you use to prove your hypothetical as legitimate?"
First of all, <:ShrekFedora:521390487240966145>
You attempted to deflect it, it's a common fact that nihilists never properly act as nihilists, because they take a different objective and ignore the logical conclusion. I don't need large scale examples, and anyone that reached this conclusion at this point is not likely to be alive <:varg:521372050225627156>
My hypothetical can only be proven by steps of logic, which is what I already showed you. Also there is no reason for a nation to be in this point lol, it's like a facebook social group of socialist antisocials. @The Big Oof
I don't remember deflecting. I've explained my position on absolute morality in the past
not in that particular conversation
it was never really directly challenged, but anyway
And I remember getting the role Fedora Desroyer and your word of defeat <:30yoboomer:521380551316209668>
I made that role
anyway
I've always said we define objective morality subjectively
we do
every two group of people think their system of objective morality is the right one
even I think mine is
this
But I realize at a conscious level it really isn't, because people have different perspectives and hold different accounts of the truth
Truth may be objective
But us being humans
we are limited in our understanding of it
so it's not that I think
context
"changes"
determines
is what I meant to say
its not that there is objective morality or strictly subjective one, but its more that there exists a relativistic morality, which does have objective basis (in the body, its genes, its memory, etc) from which it arises, but that its relative from body to body. so its in a sense both objective and subjective at the same time.
If you think that your system of beliefs is wrong you're a cuck
It's knowledge that determines morality
in my opinion
Also, there isn't anything "nihilistic" about my belief system. I have never once argued that life was meaningless. I have argued that biology itself will force you to have a meaning, and anyone who does not embrace it will usually not survive or reproduce
well, knowledge does greatly influence it, but the appropriate neurobiology being absent, knowledge will not yield us morality
so its not the primary item
its a major factor though
Why not?
it's defined by what is best for the group, is it not?
Intelligence and Wisdom are two different attributes <:30yoboomer:521380551316209668>
Doesn't really contradict what I said, I was combining them into one
anyway
the way I would say it
biology gives us a foundation of morality, we build on top of it with what we know or what we perceive to be the truth
well yes