Message from @The Big Oof

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2018-12-10 00:46:51 UTC  

I don't remember deflecting. I've explained my position on absolute morality in the past

2018-12-10 00:46:58 UTC  

not in that particular conversation

2018-12-10 00:47:12 UTC  

it was never really directly challenged, but anyway

2018-12-10 00:47:26 UTC  

And I remember getting the role Fedora Desroyer and your word of defeat <:30yoboomer:521380551316209668>

2018-12-10 00:47:32 UTC  

I made that role

2018-12-10 00:47:35 UTC  

anyway

2018-12-10 00:47:40 UTC  

I've always said we define objective morality subjectively

2018-12-10 00:47:42 UTC  

we do

2018-12-10 00:47:53 UTC  

every two group of people think their system of objective morality is the right one

2018-12-10 00:47:58 UTC  

even I think mine is

2018-12-10 00:48:20 UTC  

this

2018-12-10 00:48:23 UTC  

But I realize at a conscious level it really isn't, because people have different perspectives and hold different accounts of the truth

2018-12-10 00:48:33 UTC  

Truth may be objective

2018-12-10 00:48:36 UTC  

But us being humans

2018-12-10 00:48:44 UTC  

we are limited in our understanding of it

2018-12-10 00:48:48 UTC  

so it's not that I think

2018-12-10 00:48:50 UTC  

context

2018-12-10 00:48:53 UTC  

changes morality

2018-12-10 00:48:59 UTC  

"changes"

2018-12-10 00:49:01 UTC  

determines

2018-12-10 00:49:04 UTC  

is what I meant to say

2018-12-10 00:49:08 UTC  

its not that there is objective morality or strictly subjective one, but its more that there exists a relativistic morality, which does have objective basis (in the body, its genes, its memory, etc) from which it arises, but that its relative from body to body. so its in a sense both objective and subjective at the same time.

2018-12-10 00:49:08 UTC  

If you think that your system of beliefs is wrong you're a cuck

2018-12-10 00:49:12 UTC  

It's knowledge that determines morality

2018-12-10 00:49:19 UTC  

in my opinion

2018-12-10 00:50:06 UTC  

Also, there isn't anything "nihilistic" about my belief system. I have never once argued that life was meaningless. I have argued that biology itself will force you to have a meaning, and anyone who does not embrace it will usually not survive or reproduce

2018-12-10 00:50:06 UTC  

well, knowledge does greatly influence it, but the appropriate neurobiology being absent, knowledge will not yield us morality

2018-12-10 00:50:21 UTC  

so its not the primary item

2018-12-10 00:50:26 UTC  

its a major factor though

2018-12-10 00:50:55 UTC  

Why not?

2018-12-10 00:51:07 UTC  

it's defined by what is best for the group, is it not?

2018-12-10 00:51:25 UTC  

Intelligence and Wisdom are two different attributes <:30yoboomer:521380551316209668>

2018-12-10 00:51:57 UTC  

Doesn't really contradict what I said, I was combining them into one

2018-12-10 00:52:04 UTC  

anyway

2018-12-10 00:52:09 UTC  

the way I would say it

2018-12-10 00:52:25 UTC  

biology gives us a foundation of morality, we build on top of it with what we know or what we perceive to be the truth

2018-12-10 00:52:31 UTC  

2018-12-10 00:52:34 UTC  

well yes

2018-12-10 00:52:40 UTC  

I can agree with that latest summation

2018-12-10 00:52:53 UTC  

biology serves as the necessary foundation, but from there information complexity begins to take the leading role

2018-12-10 00:53:00 UTC  

I spot a double space. <:ree:520000441036046336>