```the equation u identified with the base structure and superstructure, or that Marx did, they pretty much saw it as not a one way street, the New Left was a Psychoanalytical movement too, they saw it as a Relationship @Xinyue ```

so its not Marxism and cannot ever be considered a tool or expansion of Marxism because its divorced from the *foundational premise* of Marxism

plain and simple

Nietzsche's whole thing was about rejecting religious values which had sustained society until the Enlightenment in favor of the self-made man who creates his own meanings and morals. This is completely antithetical to the Hegelian/Marxist dialectic which blames misfortune on material conditions.

You have no idea what you're talking about buckeroo.

@Xinyue but u disagreed with when I said that both ancaps and commies look at culture and human interaction as downstream of market forces and here u are confirming it

not market forces

Cool story peterson

*material conditions*

It is an outgrowth of Marxists Thought

entirely different things

>material conditions

material conditions are

a) resources
b) technology level
c) the environment in general, nature factors etc

>not market

these are not "market forces"

basically market

....no

its not market at all

yes

don't fucking deny it

the material world is not "market"

Yeah I agree it isn't very Marxist, I think it's much more Hegelian. But you're shitting yourself if you don't think the original members of the Frankfurt School weren't open Marxists who saw their revisionism as an antidote to both Soviet authoritarianism and democratic socialism.

Like an actual fucktard.

what a bizarre reading

not even ancaps have hot takes like this

I was not expecting to open this chat and be exposed to a bunch of mental midgetry of this caliber.

ancaps have an universal theory where everything is boiled down to a transaction

Lord make me chaste but not yet.

Stop copying otter you pleb

I am allowed to copy Otter if you're being a fucking knuckledragger.

dude, material conditions refer to the material and technical foundations that men are born into - what technology level a given society has, what chemicals and materials are present in the environment, i.e *the degrees of freedom and limits to development potential inherent in the physical world*

this is not market

ffs

which again is driven by market and economy

Marx was a materialist cuck

😹 when u mental midget

the universe is driven by market?

wew lad

wild

talking about society here bud