Message from @εïз irma εïз

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2018-12-11 17:53:03 UTC  

*material conditions*

2018-12-11 17:53:04 UTC  

It is an outgrowth of Marxists Thought

2018-12-11 17:53:08 UTC  

entirely different things

2018-12-11 17:53:14 UTC  

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2018-12-11 17:53:24 UTC  

>material conditions

2018-12-11 17:53:34 UTC  

material conditions are

a) resources
b) technology level
c) the environment in general, nature factors etc

2018-12-11 17:53:34 UTC  

>not market

2018-12-11 17:53:38 UTC  

these are not "market forces"

2018-12-11 17:53:43 UTC  

basically market

2018-12-11 17:53:45 UTC  

....no

2018-12-11 17:53:47 UTC  

its not market at all

2018-12-11 17:53:48 UTC  

yes

2018-12-11 17:53:52 UTC  

don't fucking deny it

2018-12-11 17:53:53 UTC  

the material world is not "market"

2018-12-11 17:53:54 UTC  

Yeah I agree it isn't very Marxist, I think it's much more Hegelian. But you're shitting yourself if you don't think the original members of the Frankfurt School weren't open Marxists who saw their revisionism as an antidote to both Soviet authoritarianism and democratic socialism.

2018-12-11 17:53:57 UTC  

Like an actual fucktard.

2018-12-11 17:53:59 UTC  

what a bizarre reading

2018-12-11 17:54:03 UTC  

not even ancaps have hot takes like this

2018-12-11 17:54:30 UTC  

I was not expecting to open this chat and be exposed to a bunch of mental midgetry of this caliber.

2018-12-11 17:54:32 UTC  

ancaps have an universal theory where everything is boiled down to a transaction

2018-12-11 17:54:34 UTC  

Lord make me chaste but not yet.

2018-12-11 17:54:47 UTC  

Stop copying otter you pleb

2018-12-11 17:55:03 UTC  

I am allowed to copy Otter if you're being a fucking knuckledragger.

2018-12-11 17:55:19 UTC  

dude, material conditions refer to the material and technical foundations that men are born into - what technology level a given society has, what chemicals and materials are present in the environment, i.e *the degrees of freedom and limits to development potential inherent in the physical world*

2018-12-11 17:55:33 UTC  

this is not market

2018-12-11 17:55:34 UTC  

ffs

2018-12-11 17:55:41 UTC  

which again is driven by market and economy

2018-12-11 17:55:44 UTC  

Marx was a materialist cuck

2018-12-11 17:55:46 UTC  

😹 when u mental midget

2018-12-11 17:55:49 UTC  

the universe is driven by market?

2018-12-11 17:55:51 UTC  

wew lad

2018-12-11 17:55:52 UTC  

wild

2018-12-11 17:56:04 UTC  

talking about society here bud

2018-12-11 17:56:12 UTC  

stop being mean guys 🤧

2018-12-11 17:56:17 UTC  

Marx spoke about the objective, material world *in general*

2018-12-11 17:56:20 UTC  

Lame, otter always uses the "moo" emoji. Step your game up

2018-12-11 17:56:22 UTC  

his materialism was ontological

2018-12-11 17:56:22 UTC  

play nice

2018-12-11 17:56:26 UTC  

>transaction
Exactly, market exists between individuals. There is no market in material in and of itself

2018-12-11 17:57:04 UTC  

and the individual's relationship with the objective, external world of material phenomena

2018-12-11 17:57:09 UTC  

Why are you comparing me to Otter? you seem weirdly fixated on that. It just seems like a scapegoat for being a fucking idiot tbqh fam