Message from @Aki

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2018-12-16 17:42:05 UTC  

yes, they were protests

2018-12-16 17:42:08 UTC  

Well all you are ding is presenting it from the morality of your ideology.

2018-12-16 17:42:17 UTC  

The argument is pointless and futile.

2018-12-16 17:42:23 UTC  

Farmers don't just Randomly burn their Produce lol @Stern

2018-12-16 17:42:33 UTC  

In RL it could be resolved in physicality.

2018-12-16 17:42:39 UTC  

he will ask evidence of this now

2018-12-16 17:42:39 UTC  

I never claimed otherwise @AdorableStormtrooper

2018-12-16 17:42:40 UTC  

I mean

2018-12-16 17:42:42 UTC  

js

2018-12-16 17:43:01 UTC  

@Aki what ideology am I arguing from?

2018-12-16 17:43:08 UTC  

Comunism.

2018-12-16 17:43:16 UTC  

except I'm not a communist

2018-12-16 17:43:24 UTC  

not even a marxist

2018-12-16 17:43:32 UTC  

Pro Collectivization and Pro Socialist Historical Revisionism

2018-12-16 17:43:41 UTC  

at the very least

2018-12-16 17:43:41 UTC  

Well except you are clarly making moral judgments from that pespective.

2018-12-16 17:43:46 UTC  

I'm pro historical revisionism in general

2018-12-16 17:43:56 UTC  

in favor of a certain ideology

2018-12-16 17:44:04 UTC  

in favor of historical reality

2018-12-16 17:44:27 UTC  

..from an ideologically beneficial point of view

2018-12-16 17:44:34 UTC  

great... "for consitency sake" no genocide happens

2018-12-16 17:44:50 UTC  

grand position

2018-12-16 17:44:52 UTC  
2018-12-16 17:44:59 UTC  

that's not the reason behind it

2018-12-16 17:45:03 UTC  
2018-12-16 17:45:26 UTC  

history is narrative building, it isn't usually presented completely false

2018-12-16 17:45:32 UTC  

you just hide certain facts

2018-12-16 17:45:37 UTC  

like Holodomor

2018-12-16 17:45:48 UTC  

and they go away from collective memory and discourse

2018-12-16 17:45:58 UTC  

ok?

2018-12-16 17:47:24 UTC  

This is one of the limitations of this platform, one person can easily derail any conversation happening prior.

2018-12-16 17:48:15 UTC  

"The statistical distribution of famine's victims among the ethnicities closely reflects the ethnic distribution of the rural population of Ukraine.[99] Moldavian, Polish, German, and Bulgarian population that mostly resided in the rural communities of Ukraine suffered in the same proportion as the rural Ukrainian population.[99]"

2018-12-16 17:48:26 UTC  

"Total deaths Vary from 3.3 to 7.5 million, see death tool"

2018-12-16 17:48:35 UTC  

A lot of heads had to be shaved there

2018-12-16 17:48:37 UTC  

Stern's distinction between "bad peasants" and "good peasants" is subservience to the marxist order. Note that today's marxists (most of whom don't realize that they are marxists) think much the same of the "bigoted" working class.

2018-12-16 17:48:38 UTC  

Interesting.

2018-12-16 17:49:06 UTC  

don't worry about it, it was the weather that caused the famine, not collectivization. - @Xinyue

2018-12-16 17:51:07 UTC  

I did not actually say the weather caused the famine

2018-12-16 17:51:16 UTC  

but whatever, Storm's gonna Storm

2018-12-16 17:51:45 UTC  

@Xinyue now i know that you will just lie straight faced 😄