Message from @Aki

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2018-12-16 17:39:46 UTC  

here

2018-12-16 17:39:51 UTC  

yes

2018-12-16 17:40:01 UTC  

how is that an endorsement of mass famine on all peasantry

2018-12-16 17:40:34 UTC  

So you are saying that the peasents that starved were the bad peasents but the good ones didn't

2018-12-16 17:40:53 UTC  

because you're justifying it for ideological positions and lies on top of that? @Stern

2018-12-16 17:41:04 UTC  

Isn't that what your argument actually boils down to?

2018-12-16 17:41:11 UTC  

@Aki no

2018-12-16 17:41:24 UTC  

the "bad peasants" were actively engaging in terrorism

2018-12-16 17:41:37 UTC  

like Protests?

2018-12-16 17:41:38 UTC  

the "good peasants" were in favor of collectivization

2018-12-16 17:41:48 UTC  

@AdorableStormtrooper slaughtering livestock and burning grain storages

2018-12-16 17:41:56 UTC  

"don't starve us by taking all our grain" = terrorism

2018-12-16 17:42:05 UTC  

yes, they were protests

2018-12-16 17:42:08 UTC  

Well all you are ding is presenting it from the morality of your ideology.

2018-12-16 17:42:17 UTC  

The argument is pointless and futile.

2018-12-16 17:42:23 UTC  

Farmers don't just Randomly burn their Produce lol @Stern

2018-12-16 17:42:33 UTC  

In RL it could be resolved in physicality.

2018-12-16 17:42:39 UTC  

he will ask evidence of this now

2018-12-16 17:42:39 UTC  

I never claimed otherwise @AdorableStormtrooper

2018-12-16 17:42:40 UTC  

I mean

2018-12-16 17:42:42 UTC  

js

2018-12-16 17:43:01 UTC  

@Aki what ideology am I arguing from?

2018-12-16 17:43:08 UTC  

Comunism.

2018-12-16 17:43:16 UTC  

except I'm not a communist

2018-12-16 17:43:24 UTC  

not even a marxist

2018-12-16 17:43:32 UTC  

Pro Collectivization and Pro Socialist Historical Revisionism

2018-12-16 17:43:41 UTC  

at the very least

2018-12-16 17:43:41 UTC  

Well except you are clarly making moral judgments from that pespective.

2018-12-16 17:43:46 UTC  

I'm pro historical revisionism in general

2018-12-16 17:43:56 UTC  

in favor of a certain ideology

2018-12-16 17:44:04 UTC  

in favor of historical reality

2018-12-16 17:44:27 UTC  

..from an ideologically beneficial point of view

2018-12-16 17:44:34 UTC  

great... "for consitency sake" no genocide happens

2018-12-16 17:44:50 UTC  

grand position

2018-12-16 17:44:52 UTC  
2018-12-16 17:44:59 UTC  

that's not the reason behind it

2018-12-16 17:45:03 UTC  
2018-12-16 17:45:26 UTC  

history is narrative building, it isn't usually presented completely false

2018-12-16 17:45:32 UTC  

you just hide certain facts

2018-12-16 17:45:37 UTC  

like Holodomor

2018-12-16 17:45:48 UTC  

and they go away from collective memory and discourse