make you make no claim

wut

*mate

ok

Make a claim.

i already have

Then rephrase it.

@Xinyue nicely ignored the point as always, you stand on weak ground here so you have to constantly do that

kulaks were actively killed by the government, the peasants that starved to death was from a famine

imagine my shock

and the grain was exported from the region.

@AdorableStormtrooper you literally made a point that did not go anywhere

I fixed it, in the only way to make the point work

and then it defeated itself

bravo 👏

if you deconstruct it to its base level, then yes.

@Xinyue you made a non argument with soviet propaganda

so i Drew a comparison with other Propaganda

So you make no point in the end.

there's grain exported out of areas that have famines all the time

Lol

no, i made an argument from the economic data available at the time, which mind you is the *only data we have* - you on the other hand have no data, none whatsoever, to fall back on @AdorableStormtrooper

instead of seeing the general point, you hung up on the comparison as always @Xinyue

bravo on that👍

the comparison was fucking dumb so of course I corrected it

Welp so @Xinyue what do you think about the level of honesty presented by @Stern

just curious

@Xinyue economic data that they burnt stock, why? in protest of policies that you support but that doesn't matter

How the hell does me saying that the 600K-700K people killed under USSR is a moral failure, *translate into I use Soviet propaganda?*

them protesting isn't what caused the famine mate, the new collectivized farms weren't as productive

plus whatever was grown was sent to the cities

are you saying that burning grain and killing livestock during a famine is justified just because you dont like the policy @AdorableStormtrooper

If anything that's me delivering an indictment on USSR based on the data we have

you will never address any of these points

just keep saying no argument

You have provided no argument this is true

Ehhhh that is why you do not talk with commies....

just "but why did they kill livestock ehehehehe? it was because muh Sobiets wasn't it"

I preety much proved every point I wanted to make.

you will keep saying that no matter how many times i present an argument 😄

@Aki what points specifically