Message from @Zabriskie

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2019-01-17 18:14:58 UTC  

But race is an excellent predictor of crime

2019-01-17 18:15:16 UTC  

Discrimination is defined as unjust. What we do to criminals is not unjust, it’s exactly the opposite.

2019-01-17 18:15:31 UTC  

Wait, where are you two from?

2019-01-17 18:15:37 UTC  

Discrimination isn't unjust, that's a liberal idea

2019-01-17 18:15:44 UTC  

I'm from the US

2019-01-17 18:16:06 UTC  

Ethnic discrimination shouldn't be prevalent in a functioning society. If all other ethnic groups are expelled or in a more destructive case purged then homogenity is attained.

2019-01-17 18:16:22 UTC  

Discrimination in a segregatory sense only results in tension and inevitable revolt.

2019-01-17 18:16:27 UTC  

Men should be treated like men, and women like women. That is just. What's unjust is to treat women like men.

2019-01-17 18:16:27 UTC  

Ethnic discrimination will always exist in a multi-ethnic society

2019-01-17 18:16:29 UTC  

There is no way around it

2019-01-17 18:16:35 UTC  

On a very basic definition, discrimination is just identifying the differences between one thing and another. That’s not what we do to criminals. We don’t just look at them and say, “oh, these are criminals,” and go on our way. We justly punish them according to their actions. It’s not discrimination, it’s called justice.

2019-01-17 18:16:38 UTC  

Discrimination based on what a person commits is different from discrimination based on who the person was born as.

2019-01-17 18:16:47 UTC  

There never was, nor will there ever be this utopian society where all races get along in harmony

2019-01-17 18:16:53 UTC  

^

2019-01-17 18:17:36 UTC  

woke

2019-01-17 18:17:48 UTC  

poke

2019-01-17 18:17:52 UTC  

Choke

2019-01-17 18:17:57 UTC  

On my cock

2019-01-17 18:18:01 UTC  

Heh

2019-01-17 18:18:04 UTC  

Lighten up

2019-01-17 18:18:08 UTC  

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2019-01-17 18:18:10 UTC  

When people want to enter your country you will screen them and decide whether to let them in or not. You'll make your decision based not on what's fair but what's best for your country. In the process you will discriminate.

2019-01-17 18:18:29 UTC  

Civilization was always based on discrimination, tribalism etc. What left does is unique only because it reverses the roles and thus it results in an unstable society.

2019-01-17 18:18:42 UTC  

That's a discrimination based on person's action.

2019-01-17 18:19:30 UTC  

No it isn't. Blacks are way more likely to commit crimes. If you don't want to import crime into your country you will discriminate

2019-01-17 18:19:54 UTC  

Not necesairly. Quite often you don't know the persons actions. You can only guess based on probabilites.

2019-01-17 18:19:54 UTC  

That's not fair and it's not based on what the individual did, but it will make your country safer

2019-01-17 18:19:55 UTC  

Yes, that is basic discrimination, the kind of discrimination I’m talking about is when people are denied something based solely on race, sexuality, age, etc. Illegal immigrants are screened for criminal activity, diseases, malicious intent, and a plethora of other things that would justify them not being allowed into a country, especially the United States. Nobody looks at immigrants and says, “you can’t come in because you’re gay.” Or “turn around, you’re too black.”

2019-01-17 18:20:12 UTC  

What makes you think discrimination based on action is not a form of discrimination based on race? @Kazimir Malevich

2019-01-17 18:20:14 UTC  

If you don't want to import crime into your country, you don't invite criminals or people with criminal backgrounds.

2019-01-17 18:20:57 UTC  

@The Big Oof Because the member of a race has a choice not to commit said action.

2019-01-17 18:21:06 UTC  

"I think x group is violent because of experience, therefore I will apply the appropriate treatment to group x"

2019-01-17 18:21:07 UTC  

And vice versa.

2019-01-17 18:21:08 UTC  

Yes, I agree @Kazimir Malevich because those people are criminals, they aren’t being turned away solely for being black, or female, or gay.

2019-01-17 18:21:13 UTC  

@Zabriskie actually they did that since the US was founded. Modern immigration policy is a new development

2019-01-17 18:21:27 UTC  

They absolutely screened out non whites

2019-01-17 18:21:39 UTC  

I know @Deleted User and that’s why we don’t use the past to discuss the present and the future.

2019-01-17 18:22:03 UTC  

Your argument is "thats bad because I'm a liberal" but I reject liberalism.

2019-01-17 18:22:11 UTC  

In other words we value different things.

2019-01-17 18:22:16 UTC  

I’m not saying anybody is a liberal.

2019-01-17 18:22:22 UTC  

I’m certainly not one myself.