Which, given the trog-tier test methods used by some of the really old publications, is why you go with the newest one.

It makes no logical sense that they would regress from .04 to .06 to no longer cover .22LR

Again, changing test methods provide alternate results.

For instance, in the old NIJ test model, they used a BFD clay that provided inaccurate results

point is that you are mkaing it seem like any pack of walmart .22LR fired from a 10/22 will shred a 3A to bits

which is far from the actual truth

Fuck no and I never said that

A .22LR customized for AP by dremeling the top and molding a resin tip would have a good chance.

"Soft vests get shrek'd by basically everything"

Yeah they do.

They can't even stop +P 9mm loads

In fact, barring III+, most of the test criteria use light projectiles and light loads.

So I am assuming that you are using this data as justification for you not employing any soft armor?

Because I cam

As my primary armor? God no. Flexible III is good for covering anywhere you can't fit a hard plate.

I can't see the buy in for you pushing so hard for no armor?

But I wouldn't trust soft armor to stop much of anything

given the phsycial and material limitations of textile armors

IIIA will stop 9mm +P loads

not IIA

only one 9mm +P I know of that will pen IIIA

that isnt AP

I wonder how IIIA fares against things like Tokarev.

per se

it does fine against handguns

Let's assume you are in an urban environment like a street cop, a 3A vest will stop the most common firearms threats you are liklely to encounter

7.62x25 Tokarev is a far cry from a 9mm +P in just about every way though

and would be more effective in the majority of situations vice a veramic hardplate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_3_DBeU_HI

if you are in a combat zone against enemies armed with rifle threats and long range, a ceramic hardplate would make sense

I think I've made it clear what some nig doing a few shots to an unknown condition SINGLE plate is worth.

Bukka, depends on where you're a beat cop

well, in real conditions, that's what happens

unknow condition plate

few shots

a 3A vest would offer more than twice the area coverage effective against your most likely threat

versus a rifle plate

Which is why NIJ test do conditioned plates to test the threats

And produce the VD50 or whatever the fuck, which is where 50% of threats penetrate

Turns out the NIJ knows how to test body armor to replicate "real" conditions and do so in a far more empirical manner.

so I would take the 3A which will stop all handgun threats and 99.9% of .22LR versus a rifle plate which will only cover less than half of my torso