@MamaLana Sourdough and I'm wondering just what that shelter was saying about vaping is the thing. And yes, there actually is some vegetable glycerin in most toothpastes. And @SirW00f , maybe you don't agree with my source but... "In general, glycols are non-corrosive, have very low volatility and very low toxicity; however, the closely related ethylene glycol (a key ingredient in antifreeze) is toxic to humans and to many animals." ethylene glycol is in toxic anti freeze.

PG's toxic cousin, PG is non toxic and in non toxic anti freeze https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propylene_glycol

Colgate and Crest toothpaste both have VG and PG both in them

That’s y I make my own w/ green clay, big soda& peppermint oil.

@Gambit Mutant Colgate and Crest are really unhealthy. Colgate was one of the first brands that I remember using Triclosan...a known carcinogen. When I was still not completely natural in my product choice and using Colgate, I noticed that whenever I brushed that I was spitting out pieces of skin! I sometimes use Young Living toothpaste (I rep for them), but typically I just use salt, and sometimes I make my own like @thedametruth

@MamaLana Sourdough ... young living toothpaste uses vegetable glycerin (VG) because it's proven to be safe for humans. "Ingredients
Water, Calcium carbonate, Cocos nucifera (Coconut) oil, Sodium bicarbonate, Glycerin (Vegetable), Xylitol, Xanthum gum, Mentha piperita† (Peppermint) oil, Mentha spicata† (Spearmint) leaf oil, Eugenia caryophyllus (Clove) bud oil, Ocotea quixos† (Ocotea) leaf oil, Cinnamomum verum† (Cinnamon) Bark oil, Citrus limon† (Lemon) peel oil, Eucalyptus Radiata† leaf oil, Rosmarinus officinalis† (Rosemary) leaf oil, Stevia rebaudiana leaf extract, Lecithin (Sunflower)."

Check out www.toothsoap.com

Anybody have any experience/knowledge re: Patriot Power Greens?

The marketing angle looks hoakey, but thinking about giving it a go. Thoughts, anyone?

@Relic 1776 those look like typical paid opinion reviews. And the name looks to be a scam going after your background. Know the sources well and always check/double check multiple sources - perhaps for other product reviews. I would NOT trust that one posted above as it’s intended to get you to BUY.

Yes, @Gambit Mutant I’m aware of that. It’s not what you were talking about. Also, we rarely use it due to VG being possibly sourced from soy and there are allergies to soy in our family (even though VG is deemed safe). Not sure what point you’re trying to make anymore.

Thanks MamaLana. There IS a very strong BUY Buy vibe. Very strong sales push on the website

Ima continue to look into it though

No negative reviews found so far

As to toothpaste, we are liking "kiss my face" flouride free triple action.

https://www.amazon.com/Kiss-My-Face-Toothpaste-Fluoride/dp/B00JIKPY36/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1540869125&sr=8-1&keywords=toothpaste%2Bkiss%2Bmy%2Bface&dpID=416zOq1rJ%252BL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch&th=1

@MamaLana Sourdough because VG is what makes up 70-80% of vape juice / e liquid. You were very vague about why that shelter says vaping is bad, so I have no idea what they're telling these people at the shelter about vaping. There's also a difference between food grade VG and medical grade VG... medical grade VG is synthetic and is the highest quality VG there is, and doesn't cause allergic reactions like food grade VG that contains soy can.

I was just trying to prove to you that vaping is the safer option when compared to cigarettes.

It's also because you laughed and said there's no glycerin in your toothpaste, when in fact there is.

home grown tobacco is safer than either

no pesticides

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bphmi4hg2Kw/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=x2jqszopkdgy

https://www.foxnews.com/us/licorice-twizzlers-to-blame-for-his-heart-disease-man-claims-in-lawsuit

btw, all tobacco products have been sweetened for decades from the same plant

the tobacco u think is real 100% tobacco...it isn't...it's like 20% tobacco most of them, and the rest is natural licorice fiber...high source of vg

it's the waste material they have left over from extracting the flavoring from the plant for other food products

https://www.facebook.com/courtney.mindyourbusiness/videos/10217775063031869/

@SirW00f I’m too exhausted right now but I remember that there’s something in licorice that if a person has too much of it, it can cause heart problems.

@Gambit Mutant really? Reread my posts. You’re wasting my time on BS. You’re 1)splitting hairs and 2) posting ads/for sale crap and I will publicly say do NOT keep up this tactic or you will be banned. End of discussion.

And to CLARIFY- “my” toothpaste that I use: SALT. Ain’t NO VG in that. The YL one DOES have VG and we don’t use it much in our household due to actual SOY allergies.

some plants have natural toxins in them, some are sprayed on toxins that can get transferred to the food supply

btw, excessive carb intake(sugars, starches and even alcohol) can increase risks of heart disease while ignoring a few main factors that also contribute to what they call 'heart disease'

a yeast infection in the blood stream(yes, it can happen, i'm living proof of it) can form plaque formations in the walls of the arteries in the slower areas of blood flow that have high risk of carb saturation and other materials for yeast breeding

dad had heart disease

@MamaLana Sourdough what ads? what for sale crap? I posted one referral link in here by mistake and soon deleted it, ONE. I haven't been posting ads or for sale crap except for that one referral link one time.

@MamaLana Sourdough ... Relic posted THREE ads/for sale crap in this channel... and me, zero.

I think you have me confused with someone else. =\

Lol. So 2 wrongs do not make a right. You posted in general and others called you out. I did think those were deleted but I don’t typically delete right away. Relic has been around and quite honestly I was shocked that they posted those links.

And fwiw this is the ingredient list of “my” toothpaste when I don’t want to use just salt.

well it was never my "tactics" ... you made it seem like i kept posting ads/for sale crap... when all it ever was, was one referral link that i deleted shortly after i was told about it. I was in the wrong when i sent the one referral link... you should at least admit that you were wrong for blaming me for "ads/for sale crap" when i never posted any such thing.

omg, somebody is alive

A referral link is a type of sale. You are already on public notice. We have far more important subjects to be discussing in the server and I will not allow further shilling in the server.