Message from @Montague Brinkmann

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2018-11-11 19:52:46 UTC  

share how Mexico votes already this clip is from their 2012 prez Elections https://vimeo.com/129836752

2018-11-11 19:52:58 UTC  

"show me your papers"... cops essentially already do that when they pull you over

2018-11-11 19:53:20 UTC  

Springjack you be crazeee Nazi boy how can you want to have drivers license but not a voting card?

2018-11-11 19:53:56 UTC  

Voter card is for voting not for showing the police

2018-11-11 19:54:54 UTC  

They have online voting in Switzerland btw

2018-11-11 19:55:02 UTC  

Finger in ink might be the way to go as they do in IRAN. would springjack approve of finger in ink voting?

2018-11-11 19:57:10 UTC  

And national ID cards facilitates centralized control/tracking of individuals and puts more power into the federal govt than the states

2018-11-11 19:57:15 UTC  

I gotta go, we are fluxxed and flummoxed Amerika, recalling that German accented song years ago heard recently on AJ show “ we rrrrr leeving in Amerika, Amerika Amerika” goodbye yall

2018-11-11 19:57:38 UTC  

States should have voter ID cards,

2018-11-11 19:57:52 UTC  

Switzerland also has tons of blockchain companies; must be a great place to live/work...

2018-11-11 19:57:53 UTC  

Springjack you are already tracked

2018-11-11 19:58:04 UTC  

But there are a bunch of Nazis there

2018-11-11 19:58:11 UTC  

And CERN

2018-11-11 19:58:22 UTC  

And Chernobyl radiation probably

2018-11-11 19:58:26 UTC  

Go to Switzerland one way fares start at about $600 bucks but you cant live there until you open a bank account

2018-11-11 19:58:33 UTC  

I wonder if less chemtrails though...

2018-11-11 20:00:41 UTC  

>States should have voter ID cards
what's wrong with using normal ID cards or permits/DLs?

2018-11-11 20:01:06 UTC  

That's how it's done already in states with voter ID as the law.

2018-11-11 20:02:59 UTC  

And it's not super easy to get one either, plus you have to sign up to vote.
You need a proof of citizenship (birth cert), money, proof of address _twice_, and fill out several forms.

2018-11-11 20:03:04 UTC  

"Against 1: Vote secrecy is not guaranteed
According to data protection specialists, e-voting invalidates voting secrecy because not all transactions are comprehensible to the voter. The systems currently available cannot protect privacy in the user environment, meaning that a malware-infected computer could violate the confidentiality of the vote.

Against 2: Elections and votes can be manipulated
The biggest problem, say critics, are security risks such as hacking, vote-buying and other manipulations. By introducing a virus into a computer, votes could be altered. If elections or votes can be manipulated on a large scale by criminals, foreign intelligence services or companies, this would mean the end of democracy, critics warn.

Against 3: A recount is not possible
Unlike physical ballots, electronic votes cannot be counted manually. With e-voting, the counting is done centrally. There are no individuals to add up votes or election observers who ensure that the voting process runs smoothly and checks are carried out. Citizens must blindly trust the e-voting system.

Against 4: E-voting is expensive
Opponents argue that the costs of e-voting are extortionate: at least CHF700 million ($736 million) would be required to introduce e-voting across Switzerland. An electronically delivered vote is considerably more expensive than a vote posted in an envelope.

Against 5: The introduction of e-voting is undemocratic
Two-thirds of all cantons may in theory vote electronically by 2019. However, the legal basis for this is still lacking and should be finalised only in 2020/21. That is when parliament and voters – if there is a referendum - will be able to decide. Critics complain that e-voting is therefore being introduced prematurely and without any democratic decision."

2018-11-11 20:03:14 UTC  

Holy Sh!% Folks... here comes D5+ ... Q is unleashed. Enjoy the show. https://screenshots.firefox.com/1mLst1poV3Zpm5e6/qntmpkts.keybase.pub ��

2018-11-11 20:04:30 UTC  

I can't imagine if e-voting is allowed here; most likely that means the dems would be winning even more here in California; whenever there's a large voter turnout, it usually means more liberal votes, although I suppose there could be a many voters that never vote due to busy lifestyles/forgetfulness that would vote red, even here in CA if e-voting was allowed.

2018-11-11 20:04:43 UTC  

NICE!!

2018-11-11 20:04:57 UTC  

Just as Q promised regarding 11/11....

2018-11-11 20:05:09 UTC  

Esp. since we can't get that military parade until next year

2018-11-11 20:06:04 UTC  

On that note, I have to remember to call my grandfather later regarding veteran's day; he's 97/WWII veteran and still going strong.

2018-11-11 20:06:43 UTC  

>a malware-infected computer could violate the confidentiality of the vote
if you aren't technically literate enough to feel that your computer is secure or not, then just go vote in person imo
>Elections and votes can be manipulated
not if you have to put in all the info you do to sign up to vote
>recount is not possible
sounds like a pro to me, less room for error
>E-voting is expensive
hmm, interesting
very accesible though, probably better, and doesn't kill trees
>The introduction of e-voting is undemocratic
Voting is undemocratic
ok
noted lol

2018-11-11 20:07:45 UTC  

just my thinking lol

2018-11-11 20:08:11 UTC  

Looks like Q/Trump is now fighting fire with fire. Lovin' it!!

2018-11-11 20:08:20 UTC  

Literally fighting fire with fire

2018-11-11 20:09:03 UTC  

The deep state will be going down in flames soon in a fire that they literally created; they've been burying themselves their own graves all this time.

2018-11-11 20:09:28 UTC  

I like how Tennessee does it though:
Electronic ballots with voter ID required, there is no online voting, paper ballots as a back up only, recounts not really necessary

2018-11-11 20:09:50 UTC  

also happy veterans day

2018-11-11 20:10:11 UTC  

@lmbd ... how do you catch a fish?

2018-11-11 20:12:10 UTC  

That somewhat depends on the fish... lol

2018-11-11 20:12:17 UTC  

@Irshmun those last Q posts look yummy

2018-11-11 20:12:53 UTC  

VERY

2018-11-11 20:14:14 UTC  

especially # 2487

2018-11-11 20:15:06 UTC  

😁