Message from @Montague Brinkmann

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2018-11-11 19:48:46 UTC  

And use electronic voting machine still

2018-11-11 19:49:50 UTC  

I would be willing to exchange my Drivers license to be dual purpose. Walk into local DMV show my birth cert and proof of residency and get dual purpose voter ID drivers license. Easy # IfIwereKing before next elections.

2018-11-11 19:50:19 UTC  

National ID cards are a scary prospect though...

2018-11-11 19:50:26 UTC  

Unfortunately Trump seems to be for it

2018-11-11 19:50:35 UTC  

but could help with voter corruption

2018-11-11 19:50:40 UTC  

double edge sword I suppose...

2018-11-11 19:50:44 UTC  

We have to show ID in South Carolina... And print and sign

2018-11-11 19:50:49 UTC  

centralized bad

2018-11-11 19:50:53 UTC  

slippery slope, esp. depending on who gets into office next

2018-11-11 19:51:28 UTC  

National ID card could be easily turned into Voter ID drivers license.. theybalready have mybproof of residencey all I meed to show is my birth certificate with embossed seal or I dont get to vote #ifIwereKing

2018-11-11 19:51:35 UTC  
2018-11-11 19:51:55 UTC  

I'm still more for traditional voting like in Mexico

2018-11-11 19:51:58 UTC  

Scarey for whom?

2018-11-11 19:52:16 UTC  

software is Hackware

2018-11-11 19:52:36 UTC  

national id card is along the lines of a Nazi state

2018-11-11 19:52:46 UTC  

share how Mexico votes already this clip is from their 2012 prez Elections https://vimeo.com/129836752

2018-11-11 19:52:58 UTC  

"show me your papers"... cops essentially already do that when they pull you over

2018-11-11 19:53:20 UTC  

Springjack you be crazeee Nazi boy how can you want to have drivers license but not a voting card?

2018-11-11 19:53:56 UTC  

Voter card is for voting not for showing the police

2018-11-11 19:54:54 UTC  

They have online voting in Switzerland btw

2018-11-11 19:55:02 UTC  

Finger in ink might be the way to go as they do in IRAN. would springjack approve of finger in ink voting?

2018-11-11 19:57:10 UTC  

And national ID cards facilitates centralized control/tracking of individuals and puts more power into the federal govt than the states

2018-11-11 19:57:15 UTC  

I gotta go, we are fluxxed and flummoxed Amerika, recalling that German accented song years ago heard recently on AJ show “ we rrrrr leeving in Amerika, Amerika Amerika” goodbye yall

2018-11-11 19:57:38 UTC  

States should have voter ID cards,

2018-11-11 19:57:52 UTC  

Switzerland also has tons of blockchain companies; must be a great place to live/work...

2018-11-11 19:57:53 UTC  

Springjack you are already tracked

2018-11-11 19:58:04 UTC  

But there are a bunch of Nazis there

2018-11-11 19:58:11 UTC  

And CERN

2018-11-11 19:58:22 UTC  

And Chernobyl radiation probably

2018-11-11 19:58:26 UTC  

Go to Switzerland one way fares start at about $600 bucks but you cant live there until you open a bank account

2018-11-11 19:58:33 UTC  

I wonder if less chemtrails though...

2018-11-11 20:00:41 UTC  

>States should have voter ID cards
what's wrong with using normal ID cards or permits/DLs?

2018-11-11 20:01:06 UTC  

That's how it's done already in states with voter ID as the law.

2018-11-11 20:02:59 UTC  

And it's not super easy to get one either, plus you have to sign up to vote.
You need a proof of citizenship (birth cert), money, proof of address _twice_, and fill out several forms.

2018-11-11 20:03:04 UTC  

"Against 1: Vote secrecy is not guaranteed
According to data protection specialists, e-voting invalidates voting secrecy because not all transactions are comprehensible to the voter. The systems currently available cannot protect privacy in the user environment, meaning that a malware-infected computer could violate the confidentiality of the vote.

Against 2: Elections and votes can be manipulated
The biggest problem, say critics, are security risks such as hacking, vote-buying and other manipulations. By introducing a virus into a computer, votes could be altered. If elections or votes can be manipulated on a large scale by criminals, foreign intelligence services or companies, this would mean the end of democracy, critics warn.

Against 3: A recount is not possible
Unlike physical ballots, electronic votes cannot be counted manually. With e-voting, the counting is done centrally. There are no individuals to add up votes or election observers who ensure that the voting process runs smoothly and checks are carried out. Citizens must blindly trust the e-voting system.

Against 4: E-voting is expensive
Opponents argue that the costs of e-voting are extortionate: at least CHF700 million ($736 million) would be required to introduce e-voting across Switzerland. An electronically delivered vote is considerably more expensive than a vote posted in an envelope.

Against 5: The introduction of e-voting is undemocratic
Two-thirds of all cantons may in theory vote electronically by 2019. However, the legal basis for this is still lacking and should be finalised only in 2020/21. That is when parliament and voters – if there is a referendum - will be able to decide. Critics complain that e-voting is therefore being introduced prematurely and without any democratic decision."

2018-11-11 20:03:14 UTC  

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2018-11-11 20:04:30 UTC  

I can't imagine if e-voting is allowed here; most likely that means the dems would be winning even more here in California; whenever there's a large voter turnout, it usually means more liberal votes, although I suppose there could be a many voters that never vote due to busy lifestyles/forgetfulness that would vote red, even here in CA if e-voting was allowed.

2018-11-11 20:04:43 UTC  

NICE!!