Message from @Sister Nassie
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@Sister Nassie when did Francis say he wasn't Christian
He said it with his actions, which speak louder than words.
@Sister Nassie yeah well he changed the form of the rite
@Sister Nassie someone could just as easily argue that the just war principle is the same thing
Theh could say it's heresy
And he wasn’t punished for this
I think it was the Archbishop of Canterbury
He blessed a Redskin goddess in a church
Though he also said it with his words by saying that converting people is a bad thing, embracing indifferentism, embracing homosexuality, and so on.
Ok
No, the Just War Principle is a very old Church doctrine.
How old?
@Sister Nassie secondly, what about the death penalty? In a christian society it should be un justifiable no?
Depending on the crime, it could be.
Obviously if someone steals 1 buck, it would be unjustifiable to give them the death penalty because it's such a petty crime.
Cause jesus said "he who is without sin may cast the first stone" so surely this still applies.
But if someone does a major crime like murdering somebody, then yeah the death penalty is absolutely justifiable.
@Sister Nassie how
God is both just and merciful. It's not either one or the other.
It clearly states that those without sin are those who are fit to judge
That's a big theme
In an address given on 14 September 1952, Pope Pius XII made clear that the Church does not regard the execution of criminals as a violation by the State of the universal right to life, arguing that:
When it is a question of the execution of a condemned man, the State does not dispose of the individual's right to life. In this case it is reserved to the public power to deprive the condemned person of the enjoyment of life in expiation of his crime when, by his crime, he has already disposed himself of his right to live.
No, it doesn't state that those without sin are the only ones who are fit to judge. The message there is basically just to be humble and forgiving.
Stop twisting it around to match your feels and start looking at it as it actually is.
Christians are gay
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@Sister Nassie bible>just a man
All men are corruptable
If soloman couldn't be trusted why would the pope be?
Your book is in conflict with this whole idea.
Religion is a degenerative jewish concept that subdues the aryan race into being docile to threats. Such as Immigration and pedophilia
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Jesus promised that the gates of hell would never prevail against the Church because the papacy would always remain intact, and by intact, I mean incorruptible. A pope is not just any 'ol man, but the vicar of Christ on earth, and thus a pope's judgement is guided by the Holy Spirit.
proof?
@Sister Nassie The one where he said he only respected Mohammed was when he was speaking to the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and only said it to get more Muslims to fight for him
And the one from 1945 was when he was demented and disillusioned many Europeans, including the French, for they were destroying his country while Muslims largely fought for him
Context matters