Message from @Sister Nassie

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2019-12-05 19:36:43 UTC  

@Sister Nassie someone could just as easily argue that the just war principle is the same thing

2019-12-05 19:36:49 UTC  

Theh could say it's heresy

2019-12-05 19:36:51 UTC  

And he wasn’t punished for this

2019-12-05 19:36:58 UTC  

I think it was the Archbishop of Canterbury

2019-12-05 19:37:03 UTC  

He blessed a Redskin goddess in a church

2019-12-05 19:37:05 UTC  

Though he also said it with his words by saying that converting people is a bad thing, embracing indifferentism, embracing homosexuality, and so on.

2019-12-05 19:37:17 UTC  

Ok

2019-12-05 19:37:29 UTC  

No, the Just War Principle is a very old Church doctrine.

2019-12-05 19:37:36 UTC  

How old?

2019-12-05 19:38:34 UTC  

@Sister Nassie secondly, what about the death penalty? In a christian society it should be un justifiable no?

2019-12-05 19:38:55 UTC  

Depending on the crime, it could be.

2019-12-05 19:39:30 UTC  

Obviously if someone steals 1 buck, it would be unjustifiable to give them the death penalty because it's such a petty crime.

2019-12-05 19:39:47 UTC  

Cause jesus said "he who is without sin may cast the first stone" so surely this still applies.

2019-12-05 19:40:04 UTC  

But if someone does a major crime like murdering somebody, then yeah the death penalty is absolutely justifiable.

2019-12-05 19:40:23 UTC  
2019-12-05 19:42:17 UTC  

God is both just and merciful. It's not either one or the other.

2019-12-05 19:42:26 UTC  

And thus, we should be the same way.

2019-12-05 19:43:11 UTC  

It clearly states that those without sin are those who are fit to judge

2019-12-05 19:43:16 UTC  

That's a big theme

2019-12-05 19:44:21 UTC  

In an address given on 14 September 1952, Pope Pius XII made clear that the Church does not regard the execution of criminals as a violation by the State of the universal right to life, arguing that:
When it is a question of the execution of a condemned man, the State does not dispose of the individual's right to life. In this case it is reserved to the public power to deprive the condemned person of the enjoyment of life in expiation of his crime when, by his crime, he has already disposed himself of his right to live.

2019-12-05 19:45:12 UTC  

No, it doesn't state that those without sin are the only ones who are fit to judge. The message there is basically just to be humble and forgiving.

2019-12-05 19:45:46 UTC  

Stop twisting it around to match your feels and start looking at it as it actually is.

2019-12-05 19:53:34 UTC  

Christians are gay

2019-12-05 19:53:34 UTC  

Well done @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 2!

2019-12-05 20:24:46 UTC  

@Sister Nassie bible>just a man

2019-12-05 20:24:53 UTC  

All men are corruptable

2019-12-05 20:25:05 UTC  

If soloman couldn't be trusted why would the pope be?

2019-12-05 20:25:15 UTC  

Your book is in conflict with this whole idea.

2019-12-05 20:27:10 UTC  

Religion is a degenerative jewish concept that subdues the aryan race into being docile to threats. Such as Immigration and pedophilia

2019-12-05 20:27:10 UTC  

Well done @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 1!

2019-12-05 20:42:50 UTC  

Jesus promised that the gates of hell would never prevail against the Church because the papacy would always remain intact, and by intact, I mean incorruptible. A pope is not just any 'ol man, but the vicar of Christ on earth, and thus a pope's judgement is guided by the Holy Spirit.

2019-12-05 20:44:41 UTC  

proof?

2019-12-05 20:52:04 UTC  

@Sister Nassie The one where he said he only respected Mohammed was when he was speaking to the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and only said it to get more Muslims to fight for him

2019-12-05 20:53:20 UTC  

And the one from 1945 was when he was demented and disillusioned many Europeans, including the French, for they were destroying his country while Muslims largely fought for him

2019-12-05 20:53:41 UTC  

Context matters

2019-12-06 05:19:33 UTC  

@Deleted User most christians don't believe in papal infallibility

2019-12-06 05:19:46 UTC  

except for catholics

2019-12-06 05:19:57 UTC  

but they hold a really mechanistic view on the church