Yes there are differences

a proper modern professional military does not exist to accumulate wealth or power for the members

Do you mean they're the same in the fact they both might shoot someone?

their fundamental purposes are different

Because that's a very flimsy relation

@Whats gay anymore

@Whats gay anymore Not really, but in both it happens some times

@AVRO Architect Please elaborate about purpose

the military is supposed to be self sacraficial for the nation and is bound by the laws, rules of engagement, and has a very limited authority

Rules set by whom?

And laws made by whom?

the government of the nation itself, at the end of the day the military is a deadly tool for use by those in power

a very big stick

I still don't see why that differ from gangs, there are rules of engagement and laws there too

a gang is in buisness for itself and it doesn't care who is hurt along the way for its profits and power

the military exists purely to prepare and be prepared for war

And that differ from the military and government exactly how?

oh the government is a scheme

the military is simply a tool

if the government is a gang the military is the gun, just a tool at the end of the day

@AVRO Architect Any goverment is no different from a gang, military and police are the enforcers

That's a very ancap way of looking at it

You need those "enforcers" for a functional society

no the military is a tool as are the police the enforce the laws and standards

they are the monopoly of violence as the ancaps say

Gangs have their enforcers too

I'm failing completely to see their connection to gangs

this is why a good government and not a tyranical one is important

One upholds the laws and values of a sovereign state

And one is just a group of lawless thugs

what matters is the quality of the state and government, corrupt gov, misused military

Please look at what is happening in the US. The original constitution were quite good. What is happening now

Laws are changing but that doesn't mean the military is akin to a street gang

that can be traced to the government itself and the us supreme courts specifically

@Whats gay anymore My question is what is the difference. The military is bigger and better organized. Don't give a fuck about laws when necessary

the big shift was when the thinking shifted from " we can't do it unless the constitutiion says we can" to " we can do anything except what the constitution says we can't"

quite the opposite

the military is argueably the strictest system of laws to live under

those rules of engagement I was talking about

@AVRO Architect There is a different thing to consider. You can do whatever you want, a piece of paper is not in your way

I just fundamentally disagree with the analogy