Message from @Baron Doom
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Cult
A group, often times though not always religious or spiritual in nature, that is led by a single or small group of leader(s).
Members are often recruited or by some means persuaded to join, rarely if ever knowing how destructive and harmful a cult can be -- rarely knowing that it IS a cult. Though they usual come off as being generous, caring and in the best interests of their members, cults are inherently based on furthering the desires of cult leaders.
Cult leaders commonly use thought reform or "brainwashing", in conjunction with other methods, to slowly and deliberately reel in more control of said members. In many cases, members may eventually forsake their friends and family (non-members are viewed as "wrong" or "bad") and give up their careers, homes and/or money to the leader.
@AVRO Architect I completely agree with all you say mate, but I am from the village and we call a spade a spade, not a fucking digging tool
This I feel is a better definition of a cult, your definition that you operate off of is too open ended for my taste
too many things can be classified as a cult with it that clearly aren't
@AVRO Architect I got all mine from Wikipedia, feel free to change it if you disagree
for example the " insert nation here" military
Which is also a cult, or if you prefer a 'mafia'
or a gang
having grown up on military bases I can attest that is not the case
For being a gang member I beg to differ
gangs and military is not very different
I must insist that they very much are, fundamentally they are different
One is legal the other one is not?
One get training to kill, the other not?
Yes there are differences
a proper modern professional military does not exist to accumulate wealth or power for the members
Do you mean they're the same in the fact they both might shoot someone?
their fundamental purposes are different
Because that's a very flimsy relation
@AVRO Architect Please elaborate about purpose
the military is supposed to be self sacraficial for the nation and is bound by the laws, rules of engagement, and has a very limited authority
Rules set by whom?
And laws made by whom?
the government of the nation itself, at the end of the day the military is a deadly tool for use by those in power
a very big stick
I still don't see why that differ from gangs, there are rules of engagement and laws there too
a gang is in buisness for itself and it doesn't care who is hurt along the way for its profits and power
the military exists purely to prepare and be prepared for war
And that differ from the military and government exactly how?
oh the government is a scheme
the military is simply a tool
if the government is a gang the military is the gun, just a tool at the end of the day
@AVRO Architect Any goverment is no different from a gang, military and police are the enforcers
That's a very ancap way of looking at it
You need those "enforcers" for a functional society
no the military is a tool as are the police the enforce the laws and standards
they are the monopoly of violence as the ancaps say
Gangs have their enforcers too
I'm failing completely to see their connection to gangs