So any thoughts on what to do? I like that there's a lot of younger guys and gals doing trolling and organizing discords, but what else is needed? Maybe more funding of content creators? I try to give through Patreon. What else can we do?

You don't think it was arrogance and ignorance that caused it to fail?

I've done some event planning at my previous job and it is a huge pain in the keester. I wish some of these big content creators would put out the call to help if they need it. Something about being in this sphere means you have to be like an ubermensch and do everything yourself. Just ask for help!

I agree. that's why it went to shit. It became so petty.

They took off all the guest from their website. That's a good sign! https://www.kilroyevent.com/featuredSpeakers.php

The reputation is already destroyed. They can still get ballpits though.

The good quality ones.

lmao. It's gonna be like the Fyre Festival.

An some jumpers.

OMG. Perfect. You hit it right in the nail. Lol

Kilroy concierge (2018, colourized)

Refugee camps. So right wingers can cosplay as a Muslim immigrant for a day.

The worst part is, not only are the usual suspects going to draw dashcon, etc parallels. But this disaster is going to be touted as proof of the left's superiority (they can organize) and that our ideas about freedom of speech are impossible to put into practice.

Yup, and it's true, the left is better at organizing. We need to step up our game.

The only thing the right can organize that is large-scale is some cringey Turning Point USA conference where it's a bunch of bowties complaining about the capital gains tax.

I've seen how that works, even on a small scale. People not being able to check their ego is a big part of the problem. That and being stupid teenagers sometimes.

Maybe reaching out to small businesses can help?

My fam runs 2 small businesses. Someone ask me for help.

Unfortunatly, we can't mirror the left's organizational form for many reasons. Not the least of which is use of the progressive stack, and individualism being super important.

Not saying it's gonna be easy, and you're right.

When I went to union meetings there are actually seperate organizations that do nothing but organize. Basically, it's this big pre internet social network.

I think the right is getting much better at organizing online, but some IRL stuff is important too.

This sounds like an under dog story.

Lets say you have a hundered scojus groups in an area with 4-50 active members each. Every time any group has a beef they call into this central group, and that group calls all one hundred of those affiliated groups.

Yeah, I like the idea of small groups.

Right Wing Dog Squads, so to speak

Now not every group is going to have someone show for an event, but if only a third of fifty groups can send out one to three people on a given say that is still in excess of 50 people. Enough to be intimidating.

But the thing is most those people don't really know or care about what is going on. They just want to "fight the man"

That model "works" but it is also ultimately exploitative because it uses people for political points and then discards them when they aren't of use anymore. I know this because it is what happened to me.

Also because of the progressive stack the collective cares more about small victories for a few of the group members (say, transgender bathrooms) than big wins for big groups (say large wage and benefit increases for a large unionized workplace).

This sounds like a full time thing. How are you going to motivate people to do this?

I'm not.

I'm just talking about a funcional leftist organizational model and it's flaws. Also the reasons why a more right leaning group can't use it.

This is something we shouldn't/can't do on the path to greater organization. but there may be some tidbits worth cribbing here and there.

I'm old enough to understand that I am no leader and that people don't generally listen to me.

You could hypothetically support in other ways if you're not leadership inclined, don't you think? (money, technical assistance, etc.)

Perhaps.

Well, Grumplebee sure understands what's needed though.

I think if there is one thing we need above all else it is ego checking.

None of this would have happened if someone wasn't needless paranoid about NDAs and non compete clauses.

People are just waiting for an event to go to without willing to help out in the organization. Like you said, ego checking.