Not saying it's gonna be easy, and you're right.

When I went to union meetings there are actually seperate organizations that do nothing but organize. Basically, it's this big pre internet social network.

I think the right is getting much better at organizing online, but some IRL stuff is important too.

This sounds like an under dog story.

Lets say you have a hundered scojus groups in an area with 4-50 active members each. Every time any group has a beef they call into this central group, and that group calls all one hundred of those affiliated groups.

Yeah, I like the idea of small groups.

Right Wing Dog Squads, so to speak

Now not every group is going to have someone show for an event, but if only a third of fifty groups can send out one to three people on a given say that is still in excess of 50 people. Enough to be intimidating.

But the thing is most those people don't really know or care about what is going on. They just want to "fight the man"

That model "works" but it is also ultimately exploitative because it uses people for political points and then discards them when they aren't of use anymore. I know this because it is what happened to me.

Also because of the progressive stack the collective cares more about small victories for a few of the group members (say, transgender bathrooms) than big wins for big groups (say large wage and benefit increases for a large unionized workplace).

This sounds like a full time thing. How are you going to motivate people to do this?

I'm not.

I'm just talking about a funcional leftist organizational model and it's flaws. Also the reasons why a more right leaning group can't use it.

This is something we shouldn't/can't do on the path to greater organization. but there may be some tidbits worth cribbing here and there.

I'm old enough to understand that I am no leader and that people don't generally listen to me.

You could hypothetically support in other ways if you're not leadership inclined, don't you think? (money, technical assistance, etc.)

Perhaps.

Well, Grumplebee sure understands what's needed though.

I think if there is one thing we need above all else it is ego checking.

None of this would have happened if someone wasn't needless paranoid about NDAs and non compete clauses.

People are just waiting for an event to go to without willing to help out in the organization. Like you said, ego checking.

One of the first obstacles to pass for this kind of thing is not having someone nominally on your side decide they can get a few credibility points by kicking your legs out from under you.

That's the problem with the more Randian side of the right. They expect all of us to be Howard Roark at the same time. So they think it's always justified to tear someone down if they aren't being "real" rnough.

But you're always going to need people to scrub the toilet. Metaphorically speaking.

Yes, definitely some big egos in the movement, but I think a lot of people are realizing that something is really f*cked up what's going on in the world, and they need a sort of lighthouse. I feel this way.

I feel that way as well.

Can't fight a culture war without events. Charlottesville got a lot of attention from normies but not ideal at all.

Yeah, Charlottesville and what the media did to the Tea Party are good things to look at in terms of what not to do and how to anticipate you will be depicted. They'll even go as far as to plant people to make you look bad. An activity we should focus heavily on.

As in we should be doing it to them. All the time.

Heck, considering the proclivities of people on our side it will probably be easier to get them to do stuff like that than real organization.

Like that guy in the last election who claimed to be in the KKK and that they had donated $10,000 anonymously to Hillary. We need a lot more of that going on.

Just like how we need to emphasize that you can't be a national socialist with SOCIALIST.

And that's how we should always present it because it is something the left proudly owns.

I think the Battles of Berkeley were good optics for us.

I'm talking I want that (((SOCIALIST))) so yuge you can't even hear that national part anymore.

Nazis? Fascists? What are you talking about? I don't see any (((SOCIALISTS))) here.

Lol genius.

Oh yeah much better optics.

The organizers of UTR really messed up with optics having the NSM show up in my opinion.

Also at this years npi Eli, Enoch, and spencer agreed the alt right needs to start pushing a anti capitalist message. Watch the footage from the the build Kate's wall heimbach is the most cringeworthy