@Iheanacho Why do you need to be convinced that you need a justification for your existence?

its called self verification theory, im gonna make a video on it this year.

@ZODD I remember us talking about that on xbox lol

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Nihilism when channeled properly ensured eternal vigilance and self-moderation. People need justification to motivate themselves to pursue personal goals, else they risk falling into hedonism, or worse, regressive state - which leads to crime, suicide, or even mass-murder - Just go ask the Columbine shooters who succumbed to regressive nihilism.

@Iheanacho Some How im getting an animal Farm type vibe from you right now. LOL

Even HHH has explained this on his videos, hedonism can easily be abused and is a pit-fall for disaster.

Depends on what you mean by hedonism.

There are many strands of hedonism.

Have you heard of the Cyreanics?

i have not

Look them up.

Throwing your life away on counter-productivity that does not benefit your life long-term. Relying on instant-gratification to pass you by. Laziness in a nutshell.

what if laziness is a myth tho

its your will to do what it is your doing

Who cares about future when they can just have fun.care-free? Even if they run out of money and can't maintain their house or a place to stay. That's neutral nihilism.

Some notable Hedonist philosophers: Hegesias the Death Persuader, Aristippus of Cyrene, Aristippus the Younger, Theodorus the Atheist, etc.

oh no.... its @Happy Humble Hermit

@Iheanacho Even a hedonist can create a calculus that will allow them to want a greater pleasure in the future than a less greater one in the present.

Research hedonism.

Some hedonists even believe that intellectual pursuits are quite pleasurable and make them consistent with the want of pleasure in life.

you know what's an anti hedonist film > HELL RAISER

lmao

What up homies

Sup.

Or is it perhaps the most hedonistic film ever especially if you are a masochist lol

true. that guy got every thing he wanted, until he was dragged to the other dimension . LOL.

lmao

Keep in mind, I'm not even a hedonist, per se. I'm skeptical even of pleasure.

never thought id hear that from a human. Skeptical of pleasure ? like Earned pleasure? Free Pleasure ?

All of it.

Even of the sensation, even orgasm.

All Pleasure ?? So is it your Pleasure to Escape Pleasure ??

Is it that I am escaping, or that I'm not convinced that pleasure is worth seeking?

For all that seek pleasure, could seek pain.

if its not worth Seeking, What is the Equivalent of pleasure Worth seeking in your value?

So does Pain Feel Good?

Its weird... the line between pleasure and pain becomes blurred.

Some people need to feel humiliated in order to achieve orgasm.

LOL, have you ever touched something hot and cold on metal, it gives you pain and relief at the same time, exactly what your talking about

Or if you have a sex fetish where you like you like to have your head squeezed by a woman's thighs because it makes you hard.