or from incel perspectives, suifuel lmao

Think about it. Who else would really care most about how they look? People that don't know if they are ugly. And guess who is more likely to be ugly? Incels, they admit it themselves. So, in order to find out how they can know if they are ugly, they watch LMS and it just ends up fueling inceldom.

Its cope, but of a different breed.

As for the black pill, yes there are some fascists trying to co-opt and corrupt it, but it still does not mean it Is useless. See, that thinking is what enables defeatism. I could do the same with the red pill because of all the stinky-ass PUAs trying to co-opt it. I could even say the same with MGTOW for the similar reasons (tradcon simps, incels, and PUAs trying to co-opt that too).

"Muh defeatism"

The black pill is suppose to be a reality of human nature and questing the true purpose of life.

Sorry, pal eveyone is defeated as soon as their silly parents decided to force them into this world.

There is no truth to the black pill...

A part of the black pill is skepticism toward all world views and beliefs.

For once you take the black pill, you realize that such fantastic notions such as "truth" or "knowledge" are simply constructs with no justification.

And there is an irony here, a paradox of sort.

The pill defeats itself, as all pills do.

@Iheanacho , you said you gave up Egalitarianism which is Political philosophy, where as Mgtow is just Self ownership, They are both pretty different if you ask me. LOL. i don't think you can lose faith in your own self ownership, other wise you can't really say you accomplished anything. i think your faith in mgtow is just a day dream tbh.

@Seven Of Swords , i think you need to word your paragraph of: simply constructs with no justifications/ more Simply put as , truth doesn't matter

Whatever works for you

you make it to complex for Zodd's Brain ... HAHA

Its ok lmao

@Iheanacho Is writing a Doctoral thesis on the black-pill lmao

i want to read it

@Seven Of Swords
Except the black pill is important. I am skeptical about all world views and beliefs. That is what leads to the state of neutral nihilism or worse case, regressive nihilism (where you start hating and resenting near everyone and everything). The goal with progressive nihilism is to control and tame the overwhelming effects of the black pill and make it into a life purpose. By default I have no reason to exist on this planet, once I reach a certain age, I must construct a reason to justify my existence - that reason for me being game dev.

@ZODD No, it's not a God-fucking day dream! Let's be honest, MGTOW is not just all self-ownership mate. It also dives into political discussion and views on women and society, like some of their views on hypergamy, the voting system, and the welfare system - they all still have a political ring to them. You are right I won't lose faith in self-ownership but I am still capable of losing respect for the philosophy and those who practice it.

@Iheanacho Why do you need to be convinced that you need a justification for your existence?

its called self verification theory, im gonna make a video on it this year.

@ZODD I remember us talking about that on xbox lol

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Nihilism when channeled properly ensured eternal vigilance and self-moderation. People need justification to motivate themselves to pursue personal goals, else they risk falling into hedonism, or worse, regressive state - which leads to crime, suicide, or even mass-murder - Just go ask the Columbine shooters who succumbed to regressive nihilism.

@Iheanacho Some How im getting an animal Farm type vibe from you right now. LOL

Even HHH has explained this on his videos, hedonism can easily be abused and is a pit-fall for disaster.

Depends on what you mean by hedonism.

There are many strands of hedonism.

Have you heard of the Cyreanics?

i have not

Look them up.

Throwing your life away on counter-productivity that does not benefit your life long-term. Relying on instant-gratification to pass you by. Laziness in a nutshell.

what if laziness is a myth tho

its your will to do what it is your doing

Who cares about future when they can just have fun.care-free? Even if they run out of money and can't maintain their house or a place to stay. That's neutral nihilism.

Some notable Hedonist philosophers: Hegesias the Death Persuader, Aristippus of Cyrene, Aristippus the Younger, Theodorus the Atheist, etc.

oh no.... its @Happy Humble Hermit

@Iheanacho Even a hedonist can create a calculus that will allow them to want a greater pleasure in the future than a less greater one in the present.

Research hedonism.

Some hedonists even believe that intellectual pursuits are quite pleasurable and make them consistent with the want of pleasure in life.